My curiousity to Yoyo Jesters -
08-17-2008, 02:54 AM
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Ok so I got bored with Rangers, and the next in my curiousity list is Yoyo Jesters. I heard they giant well, and their good in 1v1. I know they don't level as fast as AoE Rangers, but I have some few questions I need mixed answers of.
1. Is it true that in your Yoyo Acro hood the leveling is REALLY slow? And is it slow like a Merc on a Knight build spamming Slash and Keenwheel over over again? Or is it slower?
2. How dependant is a Yoyo Jester on equips? Like incredibly dependant? Is it less dependant if you have a RM with full buffs with you all the time?(Cause I do =P)
3. Is there any restat involved during 60 - 90, and is it nessassary?
And thats all the questions I have. Yes I have read the guides about Yoyo Jesters, but I feel like I need mixed opinions about this ^^.
1. get 2 mights, 2 vigors and fulyl buffed all time and its easy as all others
2. its very dependant when going for high str builds else +6 restra or +4-5 crusier work with a 72(1dex from set then) dex build with 30 sta would say, concentrate on a good h yoyo.
3. not needed when going with a dex build and only for lvling mostly. for a more pvp oriented build a higher set like +8 and dex from equip is needed, i like 90-110 dex with +8 set but as long you get 80+ critrate lvl 90+ its fine , either from awaken/dex.
Your leveling speed from 15-60 depends on what resources you have available to you, if you can be buffed/well-equipped, then you could easily breeze through to Jester, but without the green sets and buffs, you may have more trouble than other jobs because Yoyo acros do not do particularily well solo.
Yoyo Jesters are extremely dependent on equips, especially later-on if you want to keep your leveling speed up. Most high-damage output builds require a minimum of a +8 Restra/Rasra set with atleast 16% att, along with a highly upgraded Historic yoyo as your end-game leveling weapon. Without good equips, leveling will become increasingly difficult and slow. Having a RM present will not make this less dependent because you are expected to level with a RM almost all the time after 90
Restatting at 90 might be advised depending on what build you began with and what your equips will be.
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08-18-2008, 12:59 AM
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Ok so I got bored with Rangers, and the next in my curiousity list is Yoyo Jesters. I heard they giant well, and their good in 1v1. I know they don't level as fast as AoE Rangers, but I have some few questions I need mixed answers of.
1. Is it true that in your Yoyo Acro hood the leveling is REALLY slow? And is it slow like a Merc on a Knight build spamming Slash and Keenwheel over over again? Or is it slower?
2. How dependant is a Yoyo Jester on equips? Like incredibly dependant? Is it less dependant if you have a RM with full buffs with you all the time?(Cause I do =P)
3. Is there any restat involved during 60 - 90, and is it nessassary?
And thats all the questions I have. Yes I have read the guides about Yoyo Jesters, but I feel like I need mixed opinions about this ^^.
How can you be bored of rangers?! *speaknig for ren and mei*
1.) Yea, slowest levelers in the 15-60 range. Pump your dex to "insert amonut of dex you wish to have" and then add stam, then str..i have 71 dex, with a +8 set and its a 73 dex build..
2.) Of course not, its not reliant on equips.its only reliant if you want to actually level up and damage the monster..so pretty much yea, you need good equips..you'll need the cruiser, definetly, till lvl 90..then you get restra...and you will need a g yoyo adn a h yoyo, adn you're pretty set....im using the cruiser +8 atm, and a g yoyo +3, adn will be using my h yoyo +9 later on when i can play flyfff again...so get your equips!!
3.) why would you need a restat in ANY class if you build your build right right at the beginning? (lol, double build, double right..read it again if you're confused) liek i said, go with the 73 dex build. Right at acro hood, pump dex until you get 73 dex....then get stam to around 35(i have 30, plus equips is like..40) then pump str forever
unless u go BJ at lvl 60, and want to go yj at lvl 90, restats aren't neccessary
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08-18-2008, 01:45 AM
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Ok so I got bored with Rangers, and the next in my curiousity list is Yoyo Jesters. I heard they giant well, and their good in 1v1. I know they don't level as fast as AoE Rangers, but I have some few questions I need mixed answers of.
1. Is it true that in your Yoyo Acro hood the leveling is REALLY slow? no, increase dex points and sta points to their cap then start increasing str, use a bow till 60 And is it slow like a Merc on a Knight build spamming Slash and Keenwheel over over again? Or is it slower? use a bow till 60
2. How dependant is a Yoyo Jester on equips? Like incredibly dependant? Is it less dependant if you have a RM with full buffs with you all the time?(Cause I do =P) very dependant, at low levels of jester hood you can be 1 hit by most classes with low hp of roughly 1.xk
3. Is there any restat involved during 60 - 90, and is it nessassary? no, unless you go bj till level 90 then restat to yj
And thats all the questions I have. Yes I have read the guides about Yoyo Jesters, but I feel like I need mixed opinions about this ^^.
Yoyos are the absolute slowest class to get 60. After investing 400m+ into my yocro I found that getting 1-75 is more painful than getting my blade to 110 (he's 96). Yoyos are epic at 75+ but until then they will make you cry. However being the best class at pk if you really really want that godly hop then yeah I guess it's worth it. Or you could go BJ til 75 and restat, whatever works. But be prepared for some painful leveling...
1. Is it true that in your Yoyo Acro hood the leveling is REALLY slow? And is it slow like a Merc on a Knight build spamming Slash and Keenwheel over over again? Or is it slower?
Merc > Knight leveling by spamming Slash And Keenwheel doesn't have to be slow. >_>
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08-23-2008, 06:54 AM
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Yoyos are the absolute slowest class to get 60. After investing 400m+ into my yocro I found that getting 1-75 is more painful than getting my blade to 110 (he's 96). Yoyos are epic at 75+ but until then they will make you cry. However being the best class at pk if you really really want that godly hop then yeah I guess it's worth it. Or you could go BJ til 75 and restat, whatever works. But be prepared for some painful leveling...
bias much?
also, i don't think the level that slow, seriously..i mean..with crit swing, cruiser +8 or above, its quite fast imo..i mean, from 60-65 might be a tad hard, but hell, if you can't get pass 65, what makes you think you can get past 75? and its not just the HoP, its the H yoyo, faster leveling, and stuff. YJs i think speed up their lvling up by quite a bit, h yoyo does wonders. 65-75 might be a tad slow, but its bearable...
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08-23-2008, 07:52 AM
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bias much?
also, i don't think the level that slow, seriously..i mean..with crit swing, cruiser +8 or above, its quite fast imo..i mean, from 60-65 might be a tad hard, but hell, if you can't get pass 65, what makes you think you can get past 75? and its not just the HoP, its the H yoyo, faster leveling, and stuff. YJs i think speed up their lvling up by quite a bit, h yoyo does wonders. 65-75 might be a tad slow, but its bearable...
65-75 is probably the easiest of your YJ carreer, though 75-9x isn't that hard either. After that it starts getting slow, and you fall behind every other class.
65-75 is probably the easiest of your YJ carreer, though 75-9x isn't that hard either. After that it starts getting slow, and you fall behind every other class.
Exp or damage wise? Because YJ's damage increases at both level 75 and 90 (if they restat to a less DEX build after they got their restra).
If you're talking about exp/hour, yes. YJs lack an AoE skill.
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Yoyos are the absolute slowest class to get 60
Mages, especially STA builds are definately slower since they are dependant on their MP and actionslot.
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08-23-2008, 11:12 AM
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Exp or damage wise? Because YJ's damage increases at both level 75 and 90 (if they restat to a less DEX build after they got their restra).
If you're talking about exp/hour, yes. YJs lack an AoE skill.
The boost at lv75 isn't that big, it's mostly thanks to pinkies/azria. And yeah, you get a boost at 90, but that's the last you get, where other classes get something at 95 (or higher depending on when/if you reduce) YJs lack an AoE along with any kind of diversity in leveling gear.
Um, can you stop doing that? ._.;; We're not the only two rangers in the world, and I can't speak for Mei, but I personally find this quite embarrassing.
Um, can you stop doing that? ._.;; We're not the only two rangers in the world, and I can't speak for Mei, but I personally find this quite embarrassing.
Yea men, there is also wink u know
But yea as said before go bj till 75 or 90 for the restra set for the 15% crit rate then go yoyo ;p
1. Slower. Get powerlevelled. I have a friend who is a crucio psy. I got 55-60 leeching.
2. Most people use a hyper/cruiser set with a high upgrade all the way to 90 then get rasra/restra. Once you get that set you'll be grinding with it all the way to hero.
3. Some people restat to pure or almost pure str at 90, but you'll need an rm to grind like that.