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Default 08-17-2008, 05:16 PM


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If you are poor go gianting.

If you can't giant go lvl at things 0-2 lvls above you, until you've made some cash.

If you want to be good but are too poor and too lazy to get some good equipment this is not the game for you.


Post isn't targeted at anyone, just thought I'd throw it out there.
He's right. And anyway, I heard Giant Mushelliezer drops really good stuff.
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Default 08-17-2008, 05:26 PM
Edit: nvm

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Default 08-17-2008, 06:21 PM
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He's right. And anyway, I heard Giant Mushelliezer drops really good stuff.

You're contradicting yourself. First you say that not everyone can afford average equips and then you say they should go gianting to get the money. Maybe I didn't make make myself clear enough, but by saving money, I meant earning money, not csing. You are just proving my point for me.

Also your point about AoEers, people who AoE shouldn't care about aspd anyway since they spam skills.

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Default 08-17-2008, 07:29 PM
Shen is right btw, neither Aspd nor Hitrate matter to an AoEr

Block and Evasion, aswell as Defense will start to matter much more though



also on the mushellizer yeah hes great, I did 50mil on him in a day till I got bored.

He can't be stunned, sneakered, slowed, made stronger, weaker, hced.. nothing. Yet he's quite easy imo as I've soloed him as a Blade, BP, BJ and YJ
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Default 08-18-2008, 10:36 AM
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You're contradicting yourself. First you say that not everyone can afford average equips and then you say they should go gianting to get the money. Maybe I didn't make make myself clear enough, but by saving money, I meant earning money, not csing. You are just proving my point for me.

Also your point about AoEers, people who AoE shouldn't care about aspd anyway since they spam skills.
I am? AoE shouldn't care about A. Speed. But what about the poor? They need to go 1v1 with giants. Have you ever seen a player who AoE 5+ Giants around his/her level? And since if they use skills, are they gonna buy 3 stacks of Vitaldrinks?
EDIT: This is one of the things I mean about keeping the Recorn to +7 aand higher
Some people like both AoE and 1v1.
And is a Dretra Sword an average equip? My friend got 2 Dretras for 50mil. Yes, it's an average alright. Especially when it costs more than a clean Guardian Sword.
By the way, CS-ing is a way to earn Penya. And another thing: I don't have gPotato. And I never had.

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Default 08-18-2008, 03:09 PM
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I am? AoE shouldn't care about A. Speed. But what about the poor? They need to go 1v1 with giants. Have you ever seen a player who AoE 5+ Giants around his/her level? And since if they use skills, are they gonna buy 3 stacks of Vitaldrinks?

Actually, AoE blades are even better than 1v1 for gianting due to their insanely high blockrate. As far as using skills, they could go either way. Since most AoE'ers go very high dex, their attack speed will be high regardless of whether or not they have dretras/recorn. You could also use skills to kill giants if you wanted. Many people regard psys as the best giant hunters, and guess what? They are skill spammers. Either way, an AoE blade should have no trouble gianting.


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EDIT: This is one of the things I mean about keeping the Recorn to +7 aand higher

I don't understand what you're getting at here.


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And is a Dretra Sword an average equip? My friend got 2 Dretras for 50mil. Yes, it's an average alright. Especially when it costs more than a clean Guardian Sword.
Ask anyone what weapons the majority of blades use at level 60. Its Dretras. Sure, some people can't afford them, but it IS possible to be below average.


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By the way, CS-ing is a way to earn Penya. And another thing: I don't have gPotato. And I never had.

You think every blade CS-es to get their money? You're wrong. There are plenty of other ways to make money. Ever heard of merchanting? Maybe gianting? Sure some people use CS to make money, but there are many others who have never CS-ed and still have very good equips/ funds.

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Default 08-18-2008, 09:46 PM
Are you nuts? Any AoE blade using skills on a giant cept the start off hawk attack deserves to be shot, ran over, hit with a bat, and shot again.

Insanely high block? Awesome Accuracy? More crits? lol.. The bit dmg you lose won't matter much.
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Default 08-19-2008, 02:57 PM
We all know 1vs1 blades are the best giant hunters as long as they have buffs.

... Why deny it? They kill the fastest. Who cares if you waste have to use food, unlike BPs who stunlock them, when you kill giants way faster so it makes up for it. The BP could get hit as much as the blade, considering it's not 100% Chance to Stun. Also, who the hell cares about 38k Penya on Candies and 1m on Pills? You kill much faster and make money faster.

Gianting is about killing speed (but enough HP/DEF/Block to live), not about who gets hit the least... if not I could always make a sneaker hoar Blade to Guillotine from afar, and it'd take like an hour to kill one bloody giant.

Why were we talking about giants, again? :0
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Default 08-19-2008, 09:57 PM
lol xD

oh and uhm cause someone has got problems making moneys
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Default 08-20-2008, 04:37 AM
I think your build is ok if you have a parment assist or ring master or you can/have high +'d
gear.I would think about a little more stamia and quite a lot more dex
the skills you should max is all your self buffs
these include;
Axe Mastery
Smite Axe
Sword Mastery
Blazing Sword
Empower The Weapon
Beserk
You can also max Pan Barrier for pvp

I hope this helped
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Default 09-03-2008, 05:55 PM
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Actually, AoE blades are even better than 1v1 for gianting due to their insanely high blockrate. As far as using skills, they could go either way. Since most AoE'ers go very high dex, their attack speed will be high regardless of whether or not they have dretras/recorn. You could also use skills to kill giants if you wanted. Many people regard psys as the best giant hunters, and guess what? They are skill spammers. Either way, an AoE blade should have no trouble gianting.





I don't understand what you're getting at here.




Ask anyone what weapons the majority of blades use at level 60. Its Dretras. Sure, some people can't afford them, but it IS possible to be below average.





You think every blade CS-es to get their money? You're wrong. There are plenty of other ways to make money. Ever heard of merchanting? Maybe gianting? Sure some people use CS to make money, but there are many others who have never CS-ed and still have very good equips/ funds.
All I said was CS-ing is a way to earn penya.
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Default my 2 cents^^ - 09-16-2008, 04:21 PM
i prefer the xxxstr/40stam/40dex(it utilizes the 38 dex first blade aspd break point)
you would be a killing machine for 1v1 lvling w/ an assist. Then again its really expensive. Need +8 recorn or einy(if your a tard). Recorn should last till ur lvl 90 equips. or 80 if your a cs nut like me! Anywas im 71 and sporting Haxes +8 and +8 recorns stated set and at 5700 life unbuffd. And i roflstomp mushys. thats my -2 cents for you.

GL HF AND GG!

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Default 09-25-2008, 05:41 AM
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i agree with jessetje should add some more dex

if heard pple say a real good build is
str:xxx
sta:40-45
dex:60-70
int:15
I agree, and think 75/76 DEX is a good value... or round up to 80. Think Axe 2nd big speed break is 96 dex or so... I know few blades that did CW thier builds were lil diff because of what gear and sets they had but one had 75 dex i think while other had 100 unbuffed i think LOL....
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Default 09-25-2008, 05:46 AM
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I agree, and think 75/76 DEX is a good value... or round up to 80. Think Axe 2nd big speed break is 96 dex or so... I know few blades that did CW thier builds were lil diff because of what gear and sets they had but one had 75 dex i think while other had 100 unbuffed i think LOL....
Why would you round up to 80 and waste 4 statpoints. If the break is at 96, then you only need 76 base DEX and Cannonball.. IF you're really Keen on making a round number wait til 90 where the Dayst Set will give that 4 DEX or get statted pieces.

Also.. /facepalm at your signature. I'm guessing that BP has NPC Knuckles, low grade jewelry and an NPC Set +3. Otherwise it's complete bs.
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Default 09-25-2008, 05:58 AM
I`m pretty sure there is no speedbreak at 40 dex...

Anyways, just google the Flyff speed break table, and pick whatever you`re comfortable with. I chose no-dex by the way and i`m doing great for now :3
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