[Longknife]

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Somewhere along the way, people went from being freakin nub BR's, to just plain being pathetic.


Back in v7, it was all just fighting. There were plenty of fights you could NOT win, because there was level-based damage reduction. Still, there wasn't a single player who would say "well, I can't win, but I'll keep attacking the person anyways to show I'm no one's bitch." So, yes you could pwn someone, but they'd charge at you with what little they could, til they felt they'd proven their point, or helped a guildie kill you in some way.


Now anyone can kill anyone. Cept like, instead of encouraging people to fight on, it just made them pathetic dick-holes.

I dunno if it's because back then, if you were losing, you could always use the excuse "If we were the same level, it'd be different" or what, but now people are just plain dicks.






Perhaps you all will be familiar with this scenario: You're fighting some guy, and kicking his ass undeniabley. No, he doesn't keep charging you, but no, he doesn't leave. Instead, he seems to disappear for a good 7 minutes, just long enough to butt-fuck some merc a couple times and convince them to help, and then they return with said merc and deliver some massive sneaker spam.
Depending on who you're fighting, they'll abuse sneaker in different ways. A BJ or mage will just enjoy the free kill, a BP will asal you just out of range, or a Blade will take care to melee just slightly out of range.

It's really pathetic. In v7, it was all just: kill, or die with dignity.

Now, I've faced an asal whore who had NO fear in making it clear to me, that he wouldn't face me unless I was sneakered, or preoccupied with another target. Seriously, he would RUN OUT the moment I came running for him. We have asal whores who won't fight a target that hits back now, wtf....

I've also done a team effort where, after me and a BP friend murdered a BJ and Blade, the Blade would sneaker us and let the BJ do the killing. The Blade didn't even have the balls to HELP put damage on us. I mean, the Blade was scared off by Merkaba, Bgvur, and the POSSIBILITY we could melee back, just WTF...


And today I fought yet another asal whore, and after three straight deaths, I started winning 100%. I got about 7 kills in, then suddenly the asal whore disappeared. And BEHOLD!! He returned with a sneaker whore, and proceeded to asal me outside of my range.






What I'm trying to say is:


It used to be, in v7, everyone looked at the arena like an e-penis competition. Because of this, no one would back down with their fail assaults, no one would whine for help, and that meant no abusing skills of another class.


Now, it's as if the e-penor contest is dead, and people go to the arena....well, jus' to be PRICKS!

I'm seriously missing the e-penor attitudes. They're still there in a sense, but now people will admit to losing, or to being pussies. And once they admit to that, you better believe they'll throw every cheap trick they can at you, even though, in most cases, they've STARTED the damn fight and should be saying "well I asked for it" and back off.

Also worth mentioning briefly is that anyone who happens to accidently be in boundary on the edge is subject to being killed, just for...god knows what reason. We've turned what should be a simple act of jumping up on that edge into a life-or-death situation, where one wrong step could mean your life. (And for those of you who say being on the edge is arrogance or taunting, keep in mind many people jump up there just as they're about to run in, and their buffers then have to jump up too to buff)




So wtf happened and why did we all turn into pricks?

[Jadey]

The only difference is sneaker, those same people that couldn't kill you turned to hit and run because they couldnt root you without a high int Psy.

[xMolbolx]

it's hilariuos how low lvls can kill you easly, and how the new arena encouraged alot of "hit and run" killers, not to mention that high Hp/Assal bp who still hit and run lol..

i miss those manly fights . You, me and the arena!!

[Snake_eyez6910]

Originally Posted by Longknife

Somewhere along the way, people went from being freakin nub BR's, to just plain being pathetic.


Back in v7, it was all just fighting. There were plenty of fights you could NOT win, because there was level-based damage reduction. Still, there wasn't a single player who would say "well, I can't win, but I'll keep attacking the person anyways to show I'm no one's bitch." So, yes you could pwn someone, but they'd charge at you with what little they could, til they felt they'd proven their point, or helped a guildie kill you in some way.


Now anyone can kill anyone. Cept like, instead of encouraging people to fight on, it just made them pathetic dick-holes.

I dunno if it's because back then, if you were losing, you could always use the excuse "If we were the same level, it'd be different" or what, but now people are just plain dicks.






Perhaps you all will be familiar with this scenario: You're fighting some guy, and kicking his ass undeniabley. No, he doesn't keep charging you, but no, he doesn't leave. Instead, he seems to disappear for a good 7 minutes, just long enough to butt-fuck some merc a couple times and convince them to help, and then they return with said merc and deliver some massive sneaker spam.
Depending on who you're fighting, they'll abuse sneaker in different ways. A BJ or mage will just enjoy the free kill, a BP will asal you just out of range, or a Blade will take care to melee just slightly out of range.

It's really pathetic. In v7, it was all just: kill, or die with dignity.

Now, I've faced an asal whore who had NO fear in making it clear to me, that he wouldn't face me unless I was sneakered, or preoccupied with another target. Seriously, he would RUN OUT the moment I came running for him. We have asal whores who won't fight a target that hits back now, wtf....

I've also done a team effort where, after me and a BP friend murdered a BJ and Blade, the Blade would sneaker us and let the BJ do the killing. The Blade didn't even have the balls to HELP put damage on us. I mean, the Blade was scared off by Merkaba, Bgvur, and the POSSIBILITY we could melee back, just WTF...


And today I fought yet another asal whore, and after three straight deaths, I started winning 100%. I got about 7 kills in, then suddenly the asal whore disappeared. And BEHOLD!! He returned with a sneaker whore, and proceeded to asal me outside of my range.






What I'm trying to say is:


It used to be, in v7, everyone looked at the arena like an e-penis competition. Because of this, no one would back down with their fail assaults, no one would whine for help, and that meant no abusing skills of another class.


Now, it's as if the e-penor contest is dead, and people go to the arena....well, jus' to be PRICKS!

I'm seriously missing the e-penor attitudes. They're still there in a sense, but now people will admit to losing, or to being pussies. And once they admit to that, you better believe they'll throw every cheap trick they can at you, even though, in most cases, they've STARTED the damn fight and should be saying "well I asked for it" and back off.

Also worth mentioning briefly is that anyone who happens to accidently be in boundary on the edge is subject to being killed, just for...god knows what reason. We've turned what should be a simple act of jumping up on that edge into a life-or-death situation, where one wrong step could mean your life. (And for those of you who say being on the edge is arrogance or taunting, keep in mind many people jump up there just as they're about to run in, and their buffers then have to jump up too to buff)




So wtf happened and why did we all turn into pricks?

lol, welcome to my every day arena experiences. i've started carrying a +0 bow on me for just such pussies. and i have my psy, because sneaker doesn't bother him a bit.

about 2 hours ago i had 4 nub asal pussies, a blade, and a rm going for me at once- lagging across the arena to sh me with the jump bug. got to the point where i had to stand inside the arena and DI when they all charged in, vatal one, hop one, counter one, tank one. kill the blade spamming sneaker, kill the rm that for some unknown reason was spamming merkaba instead of hc. they managed to kill me a good 70% of the time, at which point they'd start cheering that they killed probe... while running out of the arena again

after about 40 minutes of this the other late night s3 arena regulars showed up, one of them started sneaking the bps as they ran in.

first part of it when he started sneakering was pretty much 'FUK WE DEAD NOW' 'BLADE I KILL U!!'

they kept it up until i came back in and went from one to the next with melee. then a psy, yj, and ele showed up and they pretty much said fuck it.

[XWarriorXYZ]

Just hope for them to bring back some sort of lv difference like back in v7 and such in v12@_@ But back then it was fun, I remember buffing snake on his brm who was purple and watching him kill 2 blades who were higher then him at lode in flaris lol Good times.

[Snake_eyez6910]

good times....

[Kamui4356]

Originally Posted by XWarriorXYZ

Just hope for them to bring back some sort of lv difference like back in v7 and such in v12@_@

If they don't change sneaker back, how would that change anything? You'll still have the same noobs sneakering people they can't kill, only now there will be more people they can't kill. Now if they lowered the success rate of sneaker based on levels, that would probably help more.

[Snake_eyez6910]

i've wanted success rates to fluxuate with level difference for ages

i remember when the nub acros would come spam xline on me while i pked. dealt 0 damage, but still had a 40% stun rate T_T

[Gustaf]

Lol only attack bps know in arena is asal.

[Lerkurliantamer]

Originally Posted by Longknife

Back in v7, it was all just fighting. There were plenty of fights you could NOT win, because there was level-based damage reduction. Still, there wasn't a single player who would say "well, I can't win, but I'll keep attacking the person anyways to show I'm no one's bitch." So, yes you could pwn someone, but they'd charge at you with what little they could, til they felt they'd proven their point, or helped a guildie kill you in some way.

Actually, that describes my PvP style perfectly, pre- AND post-v7

Anyway, yeah, there's a lot of noobs, mainly hit & runners, who get pwned a hell of a lot, then somehow they dig up a dozen friends out of their asses to back you up with immature insults and provocations. It's pretty annoying.

Though I'd still rather fight epic battles against a clan of noobs than have an e-pen0r competition, to be honest.

[XWarriorXYZ]

Originally Posted by Kamui4356

If they don't change sneaker back, how would that change anything? You'll still have the same noobs sneakering people they can't kill, only now there will be more people they can't kill. Now if they lowered the success rate of sneaker based on levels, that would probably help more.

Will help with those hit and runners, like asal nubs who just make a lv 80 bp for asal only, or the anoying low lv jesters who think they own just by HoP'ing then running out.

Back then in v6 and v7 pk ... rming master ranger atm D; i'll add more later DX

[Kamui4356]

Originally Posted by Snake_eyez6910

i've wanted success rates to fluxuate with level difference for ages

i remember when the nub acros would come spam xline on me while i pked. dealt 0 damage, but still had a 40% stun rate T_T

I loved doing that on my acro. I'd go to the load and wait for someone to try to pk me. Then I'd counter, they'd be stunned, and someone would kill them. Not to mention I almost killed a few blades 6x blades at 4x that way. Forcing people 20 levels higher to food with damage reduction was fun though in general I like this version better. Mages and acros think they have a chance so they just keep coming only to die again and again.

[Lerkurliantamer]

Originally Posted by Kamui4356

I loved doing that on my acro. I'd go to the load and wait for someone to try to pk me. Then I'd counter, they'd be stunned, and someone would kill them. Not to mention I almost killed a few blades 6x blades at 4x that way. Forcing people 20 levels higher to food with damage reduction was fun though in general I like this version better. Mages and acros think they have a chance so they just keep coming only to die again and again.

The FSes they can kill only serve as bait too

[infected1989]

I use my second comp to sneaker BPs with my blade if I get tired of them. If I can't walk into the arena without being asaled then yeah, sucks for them.

[guorbatschow]

you are right. some people in the arena stopped having pride. they call for unfair help and do hit and run (when actually running out of arena while being attacked is nothing else than capitulation).

its nothing you can do about this though. its infectious. if somebody gets killed this way, he will probably convert to being a prick himself.