[AoEOfArrows]

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Hi.
I`m already level 66 with my RM, only 4 levels to mines ^^"
Anyways, since i`m going to be a CW (fs) RM, I wonder if this build+equipment will work in CW, and if yes in which level I can start CWing (even with a whole group), thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Build (base):
15 STR
60 STA
15 DEX
xx INT

Equipments:
Gstick (+0)
Gore+6 or more (depends on my money)
Full wedge set+3 (suit+16%HP) (May be higher upgraded)
2X stamrings +6 or more (again depends on my money)
2X Plugs+9 (even when it doesn`t help to CW, right? XD)

As you may see my equips are pretty low upgraded :3, i`m planning to start with those equips, or with higher upgraded if i`ll freeze my RM and grind with other money makers chars, but after like 5 CWs I guess i`ll have some money and i`ll upgrade all my equipments to higher upgrades.

[meimei]

People usually recommend RMs start CWing around lvl 80, and recommend around 8k stamina. Since the slowing down ice attacks are back, it could also help slow down CW a bit too :3

You look like you're on the right way to CWing ^^ .. Just keep in mind that you will need around 8k buffed .. but you have all the equip you need, and more.. you're right that upgading your set will be better for the bonus upgrades, including more +HP% bonuses, but if you don't have the money at the moment, I don't think it will be too much of a problem.

[Ali]

Nah more like 9k at least to be sure. Especially if you're not experienced in CW/first time.

Also, plugs/defense don't help in CW if you're lvl 80+. Going to CW below lvl 80 is NOT recommended.

Your build looks fine at the moment, if you want I can calculate what your HP would be at lvl 85 with that build and those EQs.

[meimei]

Originally Posted by Ali

Nah more like 9k at least to be sure. Especially if you're not experienced in CW/first time.

I heard 9k-10k was useful for the "new" clockworks after they nerfed ice arrow and such- but with v11 and the skill effects working again, I thought that ~8k+ would be okay.

I still live in the days that 7.2k buffed was enough I guess Dx

So, with the return of Ice Arrow & other slowing effects won't mean much, then?

edit
Tested ice arrow, and it was pretty much the same =.= .. dunno about mage attacks, though I think they have remained the same as well.. meaning that 9k-10k will be ideal.

[AoEOfArrows]

Originally Posted by Ali

Nah more like 9k at least to be sure. Especially if you're not experienced in CW/first time.

Also, plugs/defense don't help in CW if you're lvl 80+. Going to CW below lvl 80 is NOT recommended.

Your build looks fine at the moment, if you want I can calculate what your HP would be at lvl 85 with that build and those EQs.

Sure, why not...thank you ^^
Umm meimei, as I understood it only the movement slowing effect is back to Ice Arrow, but meh, you interested me to check it, so i`m going to my ranger to check it out and i`ll come back with an answer XD
And btw: yep, my only experience CWing was once with my friend`s lv84 rm, who had a full team in that CW. It seems like a hard work, but he didn`t have a really good status in his equips and he didn`t reach 60 base sta yet

[Ali]

I'll do it when I wake up in the morning =] tired now ~.~

[wrtjhaw]

In regards to HP, it depends on if you will be the only RM there or not.
If oyu are the only RM, go for 9k+ HP, I have 10k on mine and it's still a pain when trying to buff people in rage. However if there are 2, then buffing in rage wont be a problem, and oyu can get away with 7.6k-8k as the minimum.

If you're unsure as to how much sta, you could always just keep points from 5 levels to add when you get to 80 if you don't have enough HP at 80, or if you do, add to INT. Save you a restat or having to wait a couple more levels because you don't have enough HP.
Although with a Gstick you should be alright.

[MeTree]

Originally Posted by Ali

Your build looks fine at the moment, if you want I can calculate what your HP would be at lvl 85 with that build and those EQs.

level85, 114 STA baffed (60+40+14), +31% HP, I cba to check the new amount of hp a gore+6 gives, but give or take +300hp including a low level patience.
Result; 8272 HP.

[wrtjhaw]

Originally Posted by MeTree

level85, 114 STA baffed (60+40+14), +31% HP, I cba to check the new amount of hp a gore+6 gives, but give or take +300hp including a low level patience.
Result; 8272 HP.

+rep

...
Oh wait D=

[Ali]

Okay lets see..

Level 80 -

Equips~

Wedge Set +5 16% HP
- +5%HP
- +16% HP
- +7 int
- +20 HP (don't all assist suits give +20 HP :>?)

Total: +21% HP, 20 HP and +7 int

Guardian Stick
- +3 int
- +15% HP

Total: +3 int and +15% HP

Sta rings +6 x2
- +14 sta

Total: +14 sta

Gore +6
- +298 HP (I'm quite positive it's that)

Total: +298 HP

Equips give a total of: +36% HP, +14 sta, +338HP and +10 int.

Buffs [maxed]~

Mental Sign +20 int
Heap up +40 sta
Patience +210 HP

Buffs give a total of: +20 int, +40 sta and +210 HP

Build~

60 sta, rest int.

Buffs and EQ:
-114 sta
-158 int

= 8184 HP, 2869 MP and roughly 10:16 buffs, 15:16 quick step, 14:55 haste.

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Level 85 -

Buffs and EQ:
-114 sta
-168 int

= 8925 HP, 3049 MP and roughly 10:36 buffs, 15:36 quick step, 15:20 haste.

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I can check this all again tomorrow morning... @.@;

[MeTree]

Originally Posted by Ali

(...big wall of numbers..)

I can check this all again tomorrow morning... @.@;

Lul, he/she said a +3 wedge, not +5.

[Ali]

Yeah but (s)he said:

"Full wedge set+3 (suit+16%HP) (May be higher upgraded)"

And shes only level 66 now, so I'm assuming that (s)he'll have her wedge at least +5 by then @.@

It's nice to have -at least- a +5 set when you CW especially if you've only gone once before.

[MeTree]

Yes, most probably. I was just playing with you, Ali

[AoEOfArrows]

Ok, I got the point...
*Saving money and gianting with my blade for better equips *_**
Anyways, thanks everybody ^^, seems like with a little better gore and a wedge+5 I can get 9k HP, then it`ll be alright.
I also didn`t think about saving point idea, that`d help ^^

Btw it`s he :O

[xmarentilx]

Wow. Ali. That should help me with my RM. :3