[xmarentilx]

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This issue keeps coming up in my school too.
Personally PDA doesn't bother me. But understand that some people are offended by it which is why its an issue. Some parents don't want their kids going to an "orgy school."

oh and you dont know where your GF's lips have been. how do you know? maybe she's cheating on you and was sucking a big one an hour before kissing you

[OdioOmnus]

Meh, I never really see why they're ever necessary. You shouldn't strut love about randomly for everyone to see, that's like turning it into an exhibition in my eyes. I might stroke my gf's hair or something like that but kissing in the middle of the hallway for everyone to see just doesn't make sense to me.

[EmperorofXenon]

I kiss / fondle my bf anytime, anywhere

[Houman]

Originally Posted by Teddy5

True, it's not like anyone's going to be like this.


Student: (making out)
Student2: OMG THEY'RE MAKING OUT, I CAN'T FOCUS.
Student3: LIK ME EITHER

Originally Posted by Longknife

You have to remember, these are the same morons who think we go:


Student 1: -is wearing a hat-
Student 2: OMG I CAN'T LEARN HIS HAT IS JUST TOO DISTRACTING!
Student 3: OMG ME TOO I'M GONNA FAIL NAO, THANKS A LOT KYLE!

lol you guys cracked me up
student 1:has a cool pen
student 2:OMG HIS PEN IS BLUE ITS DISTRACTING ME IM GUNNA GET 98% OUT OF 100 FAR OUT
student3:YEH TOTALY ME TOO I MEAN WTF A BLUE PEN HOW DISTRACTING IS THAT I CAN FOCUS STUFF YOU FRED
fred(student1):huh?

[suzybeth]

Personally I don't feel that school is the place for PDoA. School in my opinion and the opinion of most parents I would presume is to teach our children facts and skills to prepare them for the real world. Yes I am sure most of you would say that "love" is a part of the real world and yes it is. However kids have a lot of learning to do before they are even ready for love and what love entails. When my kids are at school I want to know they are learning about Abraham Lincoln, the square root of 332,009,089,906 or the chemical makeup of ink. I don't want to think they are learning how to kiss, grope, poke, or touch anyone else. There is plenty of time after you are out of school to do all that. Get your education, then find your love.

*waits for the flames*

[dannathrik]

Originally Posted by suzybeth

Personally I don't feel that school is the place for PDoA. School in my opinion and the opinion of most parents I would presume is to teach our children facts and skills to prepare them for the real world. Yes I am sure most of you would say that "love" is a part of the real world and yes it is. However kids have a lot of learning to do before they are even ready for love and what love entails. When my kids are at school I want to know they are learning about Abraham Lincoln, the square root of 332,009,089,906 or the chemical makeup of ink. I don't want to think they are learning how to kiss, grope, poke, or touch anyone else. There is plenty of time after you are out of school to do all that. Get your education, then find your love.

*waits for the flames*

Yes, that IS the purpose of school, but social wellbeing for young individuals nowadays is proven to be as vital as the education that they should recieve.

Of course, alot of kids now picture love as being nothing but sexual stimuli, and it is very sad, but I guess times just change.

But still, as I mentioned before, what happened to "Land of the Free"?

[JarJarJacob]

Originally Posted by dannathrik

But still, as I mentioned before, what happened to "Land of the Free"?

Not everyone lives in the 'Land of the Free'.

[dannathrik]

Originally Posted by JarJarJacob

Not everyone lives in the 'Land of the Free'.

Sadly, that is true.

I just don't get censorship...

[Moshineko]

Freedom comes with responsibility. You are responsible to use your freedom respectfully, and for aims that aren't inherently harmful, or overtly rude, to the public in general.

And if we want to get into a whole big discussion about Freedom, remember that the men who wrote the Declaration of Independence defined 'people' as white, land-owning men. Even today it's not applicable to children and adolescents, in the same way flamethrowers are not accessable to (hopefully most) children and adolescents. It's too much trouble to see if you're ready for it on a case-by-case basis, so you have to wait until a majority of people are, frankly, less apt to act like complete idiots. (Which should really put the age of majority up around 35, but hell, I couldn't imagine living with any children I might have for that long)

And what happens when the school turns its eyes to the public affection, and a student turns up pregnant? Rational people will declare this is the fault of the students and their parents. Rational people are very rare in cases where daughters get pregnant. It's better to not allow it than have our already paperwork taxed schools have to hire another secretary to deal with legal proceedings.

Aside from all that, I haven't actually seen a compelling reason to have schools accept that manner of behaviour. If you're teaching children socialization, part of that is that we don't generally make out in public. Hell, until about 40 years ago, we didn't even hold hands in public, and showing ankle was risque. Basically, any argument I've seen here so far in favor of schools allowing public displays of affection goes along the lines of "that's not fair!"
I've seen decent arguments against the reasons schools give for disallowing the behavior, but that's rather like sinking a sieve. Everything else is a selfish grasping for a right that's not even, at that age, truly a right at all.

[dannathrik]

You have managed to sway me, and now I understand.

Of course, it's too easy to pile it all onto the schools shoulders, but if you ask me, the parents of today shouldn't even be allowed to have kids (Save for the responsible minority).

Around the estate of which I live, the amount of parents that, to be quite frank, don't give a damn about their children is disgusting.

Just to give you an idea, without going too far off topic:
Person 1: Excuse me, but I think I just saw your eight year old son smoking in the bus shelter by the shop.
Person 2: <Insert name of child here>? Oh not again...

This was actually the conversation that took place between my mum and one of her old friends a few years ago. It appauled her as much as it does me. And according to my brother, this young child was smoking since the age of six with the help of his parents

So, yes, now that I think of it, bans on PDA are actually a good idea. It's just too bad that children who aren't so idiotic have to go with the flow.

[ALTimore]

Thanks to hormones, majority of teenagers are quite likely to feel more aroused by even the slightest physical contact. PDA isn't neccessarily bad but because of these hormones, it is quite possible that the students who indulge in this WILL be distracted from their learning.

This applies especially to high schools, since feelings of sexual excitement are new and no matter how smart kids may think they are, they won't REALLY be prepared for these. Only a handful I think would be able to cope with these feelings and not let it get in the way of their studies.

Of course, not all students are aroused, and in effect, disturbed, by PDA, but schools might just be implementing this to be sure that nothing gets in the way of learning.

I have nothing against hugging and I think that banning even hugs is really WTF. What next? Will they ban handshakes? But maybe the teachers and staff are just being really careful since nowadays, so many kids are perverted and easily aroused.

Ooooor the teachers are just jealous of their students.

[Fuel]

While I'm all for freedom to express yourself and how you feel about someone else, I have to agree with Moshi here. The school needs to protect their teachers and staff because if something serious happened (rape, pregnancy, whatever) and the school was ignoring it because they were too busy giving you your freedom, there will be hell to pay. Nobody (especially a parent) is ever rational when stuff like that is going down, and they will drag teachers and other parents and kids down into the mud to get 'justice' for their child.

I would rather have a case by case basis for rules like that, because hugging is fine and some kissing is okay too, but if you're basically having foreplay with your clothes on in the hallway, it's disgusting, inappropriate and pathetic. I had to deal with it in high school all the time, and it messed up the flow in the hallway. When you only have a certain amount of time to get to your next class across the other side of the school, you're ready to kick everyone out of the way, especially those lovebirds. But because everyone's irrational and parents bitch about everything, schools are pretty much required to have a zero tolerance policy, as Moshi said, to cover their asses.

Teachers don't make much money, don't get innocent ones in trouble for trying to keep you from looking like a slut.

[Morgawr]

I'm all the way with Moshi and Fuel... hell, even I when I had a girlfriend ( T_T ) didn't like kissing and making out in front of everyone... it should be something private and people shouldn't do that in the halls of school... hell, just have some decency!

Kissing on the cheeck or lips (no french kiss), holding hand and hugging though is ok in my opinion.

[Blademan5]

All schools are starting to do this in a way. Almost every school has rules against this although some are rarely enforced. It seems that all schools are trying to become stricter and at the same time become chiller. It seems that all the time schools are trying to turn the school into a living hell, yet in the past school teachers could beat you in class and everything would be fine.

[Foxen]

To be honest I can't see why some schools have rules about things like hugs. In my world it's a normal, friendly way to say hello/goodbye/whatever. Nothing to get offended about. Of course the school is a place where you're to learn things, but just because of that it doesn't have to be numb place.
A little kiss on the lips can't I neither see the problem with. When it goes over the french kissing I can understand why some people may be bothered about it. It's a more intimate thing I think.