[bhamlaxy]

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Ah, this makes me so happy I'm in college. I can smoke cigarettes in front of, or even with my teachers, discuss anything I want with some of the more liberal teachers, have a cell phone in class without having it immediately confiscated and sent to the office, eat food in class, make out with people in front of professors (although not recommended) and even skip once in a while.

This wasn't too much of a problem at my school, although I have seen the bad stories of other places where groups of girls were suspended for hugging each other. In my school, there were nice hidden places to go while doing stuff like that.

[lilguy]

People are just paranoid about kids in their school fornicating.

[Moshineko]

Originally Posted by bhamlaxy

Ah, this makes me so happy I'm in college. I can smoke cigarettes in front of, or even with my teachers, discuss anything I want with some of the more liberal teachers, have a cell phone in class without having it immediately confiscated and sent to the office, eat food in class, make out with people in front of professors (although not recommended) and even skip once in a while.

This wasn't too much of a problem at my school, although I have seen the bad stories of other places where groups of girls were suspended for hugging each other. In my school, there were nice hidden places to go while doing stuff like that.

Heh, yep, I love college. The way education should really go. Went out for a beer the other week with one of my professors. Ahhhh, adulthood.

OKAY. On-topic, here comes Moshi with the crushing adult perspective.

As a former aide/para in a High School, there's a reason we need to be so strict with the rules about those things. A for-instance that I'm more familiar with: dress codes.

Okay, we know that there are two things dress codes frown upon. Hats, and girls dressing provocatively. Hats, no prob. "I don't want to see it" as a first, then grab it for a second. More about teachers having to be seen to follow the rules really. It's as much a bitch for us as it is for you.

The other? Ladies in the whore outfits? If you tell me that teenage boys aren't distracted by some hot piece of ass in a miniskirt, I've got a lovely bridge I'd like to sell you out in San Fran. BUT. Guess what happens if I, Mr. Moshi, 29-year-old man, tell a girl she's dressing to provocatively?

I get accused of:


Oops! Here comes Chris Hansen, asking me why I'm looking at provocatively-dressed young ladies. Oops! Here comes her mom and dad, looking to get my ass put away. Oops! Here come mobs of folks ready to burn my house down because I noticed some girl's skirt was more of a belt than a skirt.

Yep, it happens. Innocent alerts that "hey, we can all see your goodies, and it's sort of distracting the boys" turn into accusations of lurid scenes right out of your favorite JP loli-sensei movie.

SO, what do we do? Zero-tolerance on x article of clothing. That way, no one has to say they made a judgement call. It's just, "sorry, Susie, you know that we don't allow string bikinis here in Moshi High, not my rule, it's the school's rule" *sympathetic shrug*. Most teachers would likely only talk to the people that were dressed in a truly unacceptable manner, rather than anyone wearing said article of clothing, but when we have to talk to them, we get an iron-clad rule, and there's little chance of being accused of trying to lure the girls to our car with candy.

The make-out rule is the same sort of thing. It's likely no one in your school gives a shit if you're giving your S.O. a peck on the cheek before class, or holding your sweetie's hand in the halls. But, for the kids pulling a full-on dry hump in the middle of the school foyer, well, we sort of have to say soemthing about that. Kinda looks bad to the visiting parents. So, with an iron-clad "No P.D.A." rule, we can harass the kids that need to be harrassed without fear of being accused of getting our jollies watching a jailbait tounge-hockey match.

You'd be surprised how much of school policy revolves around making sure we can't be accused of pedophilia and making sure we can't be sued. Fucking ridiculous, really. I know, I know, 99% wouldn't do more than yell at a teacher for a bit. But that 1% can ruin a man's life FOREVER!!!

So, that's basically why the zero-tolerance. It's more a Cover Your Ass (CYA) policy than an actual school policy. It'll probably be rough for a few weeks, but then it'll be back to normal, more likely than not.

[Avarion]

Sometimes PDA does make me feel a bit uncomfortable, especially if I'm in a shit mood, but I wouldn't ban it from schools or public places. There's absolutely nothing wrong with hugging or kissing, but if there are tongues involved it's nicer to keep them out of view. I remember when I was in high-school I was quite shy about people watching me kiss my boyfriend, but I know lots of other kids had no inhibitions and were a little too in-your-face with it, so they'd be told to break it up.

Hugging on the other hand is never obscene, and should never be confused with groping. School's a shit place if you can't hug your friends.

[HidanOfTheThree]

My high school was strange. The actual policy was that PDoA's only applied to kissing, yet the administrators would go crazy on anyone who was even walking near a person of the opposite gender. Now get this, this policy only was in effect as long as the people were inside the actual building. That means you could make out, hold hands, hug and do anything that couldn't get you arrested for indecent exposure right on the front door of the school not get in trouble for it.

[Marsipan]

A flat out ban on PDAs in general just makes it easier to control, since there's hugging and hugging. But what do I care, I went to an all girls school and I didn't have to witness any monkeybusiness.

PDAs in general... well I agree with Avarion about the tongues. Tongues aren't pretty.

And as for the people in my age group now, PDA in excess is often related to how insecure one person is in the relationship. They continually need to stamp ownership on the other person. If you're the recipient the clinginess can get really irritating. I'm sure some people like it, but the ones I've known have gotten really tired of it after awhile. In a couple of cases it's been a dealbreaker. Let's just say that no one wants to be groped in front of their mum/dad/grandma.

Imo, there's a time and place for things, and if you're sitting down to dinner in a nice restaurant that isn't it. Your friends probably prefer some conversation over watching you play tonsil hockey.

[gregoreedotcom]

Obviously there must be some borderline (yeah as cool it is, not everyone wants to see you shagging in public. plus I don't wanna slip and fall face first into a fresh wad). But for the most part, I see no problem with public affection. Getting in trouble for a HUG? pretty ridiculous....

[Kseniya]

Originally Posted by Moshineko

T.L.

Hey, the thing you said about boys being distractde by girls clothes. Boys are going to encounter girls in revealing clothes where ever they go and they should learn how to behave themselves in their presence. And girls should be told that if they are wearing revealing clothes boys are going to stare and if the girls are OK with boys looking then it's their choice.

[Moshineko]

Originally Posted by Kseniya

Hey, the thing you said about boys being distractde by girls clothes. Boys are going to encounter girls in revealing clothes where ever they go and they should learn how to behave themselves in their presence. And girls should be told that if they are wearing revealing clothes boys are going to stare and if the girls are OK with boys looking then it's their choice.

XD

There is no learning to "not be distracted" by scantily clad ladies when you're an adolescent. Sorry, that's the way of it. Hormones don't learn about "no".
And, even if there is, public school isn't the place to do it, that's stuff your parents should be dealing with, not your teachers, they've already got enough to worry about.

The problem with revealing clothes is that boys don't just look. The more sexually attractive and "slutty" you look, the more likely you are to get raped. Sad fact, but true. It's all down to appearances. It isn't just that boys look at you when you're dressed provocatively, you also give the illusion of being sexually available. If you give off that illlusion and you're not as sexually available as your clothes say you are, well, hormones don't listen to logic.

I'd much rather that High School students get all butthurt over stricter rules than some young lady gets raped because we all had to back off and let kids be individuals.

[wrtjhaw]

Originally Posted by Longknife

You have to remember, these are the same morons who think we go:


Student 1: -is wearing a hat-
Student 2: OMG I CAN'T LEARN HIS HAT IS JUST TOO DISTRACTING!
Student 3: OMG ME TOO I'M GONNA FAIL NAO, THANKS A LOT KYLE!

HAHAHA!
Fecking Kyle, what a bag of douche xD
It's always his fault >.>;

[Ragnyrok]

Originally Posted by dragonslayer

ok im 11 and i kiss and hug my gf all the time.....fck those rules i got send 2 the vice princapal like 8 time alraedy 4 that shit but...kiss and hug ur gf/bf fck the danm techers or rules

omg!!!! You're eleven? You have a dirty mouth for an eleven year old.
Someone should tell your parents. Seriously.

[ChemicalOath]

Originally Posted by dragonslayer

ok im 11 and i kiss and hug my gf all the time.....fck those rules i got send 2 the vice princapal like 8 time alraedy 4 that shit but...kiss and hug ur gf/bf fck the danm techers or rules

You realize acting like that at age 11 doesn't make you cool.

[Moshineko]

Originally Posted by dragonslayer

ok im 11 and i kiss and hug my gf all the time.....fck those rules i got send 2 the vice princapal like 8 time alraedy 4 that shit but...kiss and hug ur gf/bf fck the danm techers or rules

...future winnar.

[dannathrik]

Okay. So the topic at hand is that it is debated whether a ban of PDA is necessary and/or fair.

It is universally understood that many a person can be made to feel uncomfortable for many a reason whilst spectating said public display, and yes, I feel this way from time to time around and about too (as my lover moved away little less than eight months ago), but I personally would do nothing to intervene. Whatever happened to the term "Land of the Free"?

From my perspective, a ban on PDA is immature and completely unnecessary, especially in educational facilities, such as school. For goodness sake, these people only live once, and during this lifetime, they will meet restrictions everywhere they stumble across. What does this solve?

A couple love eachother dearly. They're in school and enjoy spending their breaktimes kissing and cuddling. They don't make a big thing of it, but instead just sit down and quietly enjoy one-anothers presence. Where is the justice in splitting this couple up and denying them time together? I see no problem in what they do.

Of course, if sparks flew and this couple were heating up (Quite blatantly), then intervention may be fair, but realistically, how many students would commit acts of such sexual/unnecessary nature in full view of their peers?

My honest opinion is that such harsh PDA rules are pointless and a waste of energy, but of course, there are limits.

Now, dropping the seriousness a semitone, I'm fairly young myself. My school wasn't too enthusiastic about public displays of affection either last year. Me and my girlfriend would always just sit on a bench with our friends goofing off about us, and we'd cuddle up to one another, and kiss, and just generally express how we feel for one another. The geography teacher Mr. Wilton would ALWAYS pick out on us XD "Stop your kanoodling or I'll send you to opposite sides of the school"

I daresay his warnings weren't taken very seriously ^_- But to be honest, me and my girlfriend always saw it as this:
Love is an almighty force, unbeatable by many things. We love one another, and nothing can come between that. We didn't have your typical lust driven display of hormonal infatuation. Those relationships don't last. We're entering our seventeenth month together =3

Just think about that next time your school disagrees with your PDA ^_- Maybe you can stop them in their tracks and get away with something.

And thus concludes my essay XD

[XoXoY]

Originally Posted by dragonslayer

ok im 11 and i kiss and hug my gf all the time.....fck those rules i got send 2 the vice princapal like 8 time alraedy 4 that shit but...kiss and hug ur gf/bf fck the danm techers or rules

Lol you failed >: (