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The AoE Billposter: Not just for noobs anymore!
The AoE Billposter: Not just for noobs anymore!
Published by bhamlaxy
01-22-2008
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All too often I see people create AoE assists, level them to 65, then quit them forever. AoE assists and billposters are often characterized as pretty stupid, since most people focus on the use of burst crack, which begins to suck in the mid-60's. Even the most notable assist guide states "If you do AoE all I can tell you is GOOD LUCK BECAUSE IT WILL TAKE FOREVER TO LEVEL." I'm here to prove that statement is extremely wrong, and leveling speed is still extremely efficient.

I was pretty bored with the game, and read a tiny bit about the int-AoE billposter build, which has been explored by many people. I've had a great time with it, and wanted to share my experience so far.


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By Papooze on 01-22-2008, 09:57 AM
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Pretty vague.

Not a great deal on anything above 70, show's you lack experience. Knowing about the whole level range shows you have a greater in depth knowledge of not only your character, but the game in general.

Good attempt still.
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By Shaoran on 01-22-2008, 10:39 AM
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oh well...you said burst crack sucks, but actually, it's the strongest AoE @_@ if you go pure int and use bgvur your damage won't get close to a pure str burst crack.
also, int doesn't add that much damage to bgvur, it's just like merkaba, my Bp was pure int at lv 80 to master skills, and when I restated back my bgvur was 300-500 damage weaker.

but anyway, bgvur > burst crack maybe, because bgvur have a faster cast, but it doesn't stun =p
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By Mann on 01-22-2008, 10:52 AM
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Mmm you needed to be a bit more specific in the title. AoE Bp's around still consist of all three. At least, what I've seen.

Is piercing serpent really that inefficient? I have yet to try it.
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By bhamlaxy on 01-22-2008, 11:39 AM
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Not a great deal on anything above 70, show's you lack experience. Knowing about the whole level range shows you have a greater in depth knowledge of not only your character, but the game in general.
This is true, I definitely lack the experience, as my AoE BP is only 76 right now. I hope to update in the future as I gain more experience.

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oh well...you said burst crack sucks, but actually, it's the strongest AoE @_@ if you go pure int and use bgvur your damage won't get close to a pure str burst crack.
I'm not too sure about this. I think that with my current AoE build, my damage is stronger with int using bgvur than it would be replacing all those points with strength using burst crack.

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Mmm you needed to be a bit more specific in the title. AoE Bp's around still consist of all three. At least, what I've seen.
I'll make that change soon.

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Is piercing serpent really that inefficient? I have yet to try it.
I haven't been able to personally test it, but I believe is is nearly the same damage as burst crack, not that much of an improvement.

I whipped this guide up very quickly, as I was hurrying to get to class, so maybe I posted it prematurely. I'll continue to make additions. Thanks for the comments! Keep em coming.
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By nairb168 on 01-22-2008, 02:58 PM
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I think Piercing serpent is the least efficient out of the three aoes, but I thought burst crack was still pretty effective. Maybe you should try a hybrid build that utilizes str and int and uses both burst crack to stun and bvgur for the cast time.
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By Kardaron on 01-22-2008, 03:20 PM
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Mmm you needed to be a bit more specific in the title. AoE Bp's around still consist of all three. At least, what I've seen.

Is piercing serpent really that inefficient? I have yet to try it.
Actually, i thought piercing serpent was really great. Since its based on strength, you can have a sta/str bulid, and with a gknuckle, you can be either 1v1, or aoe. So basically, piercing serpent is a win win.
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By bhamlaxy on 01-22-2008, 03:55 PM
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Actually, i thought piercing serpent was really great. Since its based on strength, you can have a sta/str bulid, and with a gknuckle, you can be either 1v1, or aoe. So basically, piercing serpent is a win win.
With no dex your hit rate is going to be abysmal. And if you want to be an effective AoE'r you are going to have half the strength of normal 1v1 BP, so your damage will blow. With a high +'d set and a highly upgraded gnuckle, then maybe.

I'll look more into possibly adding a Str-AoE section. I was under the impression that burst crack begins to suck starting at sylicas, and just didn't do enough damage to make it effective, and piercing serpent was around the same damage.
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By FiliaChan on 01-23-2008, 02:41 AM
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Personally, I'd kept my aoe bp at cranes till 70. With at most a 30% exp penalty, they die twice as fast than those fish. So, basically, if the crane spawn is free (there are times of day, depending on server), you would get about 1.4x the exp you'd get at syliacae in a given amount of time. Worst case scenario. Of course, you could aoe more cranes than syliacae.

Shaoran, no AoE BP build will ever make use of a full int or full str build. Samples should be taken with the decent sta requirements. Even if full int Bgvur would stink against full str Burst Crack, it still outperforms it, hands down, grinding wise, on a 70-100 sta build. people give up Burst Crack for a good reason, whether they go 1v1 or stick to some other AoE.

And I've also tempered w/ Piercing Serpent, and it needs more str than Bgvur needs int to reach a decent amount of damage.

Also! Bgvur does not need a target! Which makes it a very effective AoE, given you sometimes take mobs with different amounts of hp. (small/regular/capt combos; I believe this will be very useful when facing v7 mobs, whose spawns of diff. types of the same mob are all in one place)
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By guorbatschow on 01-23-2008, 02:51 AM
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you just concentrated on the skills. while bgvur has nothing exceptional except consuming posters and tons of mp, it has no side effects. meanwhile burstcrack helps tanking with stun.

aoe isnt only about dealing damage. more than half of the time you gather mobs. billposters are not made for fast gathering, thats why people recommend 105+ when gathering doesnt pose to big of a problem anymore. billposters are not made for tanking either. knights have high def, blades and rangers have high block, eles can hit and run... and BPs?

i can see that BPs have the choice to aoe, but i dont see how its efficiency prior to desert.
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By sugaman on 04-12-2008, 06:29 PM
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I liked your guide but maybe you could put the skills that an assist has and how to distribute them.
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By Serano on 04-13-2008, 09:36 AM
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I liked it. I would love to see all the skills both of BP and Assist, and maybe some more pictures as well. Don't forget to keep updating this.
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By Fabia on 04-17-2008, 04:14 PM
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Its an ok guide.. Id like to clear some things

Piercing serpent is as most people say totally useless.. Only mobs that are right in front of you are effected. It uses like 3x as much fp as burst crack. Tough the base damage is higher (so with no str it does more dmg then BC) but when u got alot of str (like i do) BC outdamages PS. My burstcrack does 4.7k to mobs my lvl, PS does 4.5k..

I understand you couldnt know this since ur not 105+, but as a lv105 you can go full str and aoe. With the correct awakenings on ur eq and a v7 set with +28def or +28hp will make it possible for a full str BP to aoe.. With the close spawns in the desert (or azria) this is a faster way of leveling then normal 1v1 (as i did before). And a big sidenote: As a full strength BP ur asal is still extremely powerfull! Very important for most 105+ BPs since they would do good @ sieges.

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The strength AoE's are terrible. Burst crack really sucks after the mid 60's, and Piercing Serpent has very low damage
Burst crack sucks after the mid 60s cause you didnt add str. Make a assist with 40-50 sta and the rest in str and ull notice that burstcrack aint bad at all..
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By jashot1 on 04-19-2008, 03:04 PM
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you sold me XD. 5/5
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By Toter Alter Mann on 04-24-2008, 06:21 AM
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Obviously, you did not know that Stonehand can stun monsters while int aoeing. I didn't believe this for a long time, until I tried it myself.

So for heaven's sake: Master Stonehand! (or bring it to lvl 19) I allows you to tank a lot more mobs since some will always be stunned. Also, having high int, Stonehand won't run out of time for your whole run - afterwards, simply recast it.

Secondly, I would master Prevention as an aoe assist, it's already useful on lower levels.

Most important: YES, you CAN aoe on your own, without an fs. Having the 105 V7 set, combined with enough sta, the right element on your suit and stonehand, you can grab a leecher and kill alone. Food will be enough to heal you, your buffs will last long enough and if it gets critical: Pill - prevention - pill. By that point, the mobs will be down. Prevention makes you immortal.

I myself prefer a perm rm partner on my level who supports me with healrain and deals damage with MH, but if you don't have one, it's no problem.
I can take 25+ kings (which are 8 lvls above me) without rm support. But I recommend this rather for higher lvls.

In my eyes, the BP is the fastest leveling class besides the Elementor, who can aoe with a full int build, but not alone.
Last edited by Toter Alter Mann; 04-24-2008 at 06:24 AM.
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