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Originally Posted by DragonForce

well if you had a rm that used haste you would hit faster and if we are talking about speed a knigth would fast even with a 2h wep if he used recorn set and h ambi axe but it would have to have like 16% def and be like +8 to do well against CW.

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[GangztaBlood]

Originally Posted by xDarkstarx

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[EaRenDeL]

Originally Posted by GangztaBlood

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[Snake_eyez6910]

are you certain swordcross and hc doesn't stack? o.O

[psychorvs]

Originally Posted by DragonForce

well if you had a rm that used haste you would hit faster and if we are talking about speed a knigth would fast even with a 2h wep if he used recorn set and h ambi axe but it would have to have like 16% def and be like +8 to do well against CW.

With 16% DEF Rescorn Set you lose Hitrate, Critrate and 16% ATK power.
The H Ambi Axe is a weakass weapon for CW (Atkrate and bonus-wise)

Your combo would give you 100% Aspeed but no power to do good damage and thus take down 62 million HP in 60 minutes.

Originally Posted by Snake_eyez6910

are you certain swordcross and hc doesn't stack? o.O

Absolutely sure after extensive testing its possibilities on my Knight.

[DragonForce]

well no shit i knew that much but you were on thesubject of speed so i just put that in there.

[psychorvs]

Originally Posted by DragonForce

well no shit i knew that much but you were on thesubject of speed so i just put that in there.

If you knew that much then why the fuck did you bring up 16% DEF on a Rescorn Suit.

[DragonForce]

well no shit i knew that much but you were on thesubject of speed so i just put that in there.

[Dahalag]

Double post FTW

[DragonForce]

my bad and psych chill out you act like its such a big deal its a game. i put that in there because you were talking about CW and aspeed and that would be the best way to last with good aspeed against CW and 2h axe and swinging 2h axe that fast is badass.

[GangztaBlood]

Originally Posted by DragonForce

my bad and psych chill out you act like its such a big deal its a game. i put that in there because you were talking about CW and aspeed and that would be the best way to last with good aspeed against CW and 2h axe and swinging 2h axe that fast is badass.

attack speed?wtf who needs recorn set for speed to do cw as a knight when evrytime you go cw u need a rm N they have GT
and who the **** need def?def sucks just get a damn set+8 and 30-40sta
and another thing ur de-rep for been noob!!!!OWNED@@!!!!!!!!!!!!

[psychorvs]

Originally Posted by DragonForce

my bad and psych chill out you act like its such a big deal its a game. i put that in there because you were talking about CW and aspeed and that would be the best way to last with good aspeed against CW and 2h axe and swinging 2h axe that fast is badass.

If you wouldve read the actual topic as a whole and its replies you wouldve seen that the Aspeed was already discussed and the subject was closed. Nowhere do I read a question asking how Knights get 100% aspeed.

[Claude]

If you want extra crit damage just use the 90 big sword. Using a 1 handed weapon is useless and stupid. The base damage doesn't even compare.

[psychorvs]

Originally Posted by Claude

If you want extra crit damage just use the 90 big sword. Using a 1 handed weapon is useless and stupid. The base damage doesn't even compare.

Did you even compare everything? I think not.


As shown the LG 1 Handed Axe adds +20% Critrate and +40% Critdmg.
It has 70 less base Atkrate than the Angel Big Sword.

The weapon is labeled normal, meaning with RM buffs it is likely to get 100% Aspeed. We assume usage of a STR build with a Warpon Set since its proven the best for 1v1 CW.

Stats buffed with LG 1h Axe/Warpon Set
38% Critrate (60% Critmode)
+40% Critdmg
100% Aspeed
+15% Hitrate



The Angel Big Sword (ABS) has 10 DEX and 35% Critdmg.
It has 70 more Atkrate than an LG 1h Axe.

The weapon is labeled Slow meaning 87% Aspeed will be the max Aspeed with a STR build (which is needed for the actual damage to kill CW)

Stats buffed with Angel Big Sword
19% Critrate (41% Critmode)
+35% Critdmg
87% Aspeed
+15% Hitrate


It is clear what setup of weaponry wins the damage showdown.
The conclusion? The Angel Big Sword is 13% slower than a LG 1h Axe, has 5% less Critdmg and only gives half the Critrate that the LG 1h Axe gives.

Using a 2handed weapon will give a few hundred more base damage tops, but the Criticals and the Crit modifier on the LG 1h Axe outshines this minor damage difference.

Therefore it is now proven a FACT that LG 1h Axes are statistically better weapons for any Merc-Job to use at Clockworks.

[Claude]

You didn't apply GT. And i didn't know we were talking about CW. My mistake. I tend to miss a few post sometimes.
If your just plain leveling, crits are bad IMO. Knockbacks = more time to kill a mob = less exp even with 100% attack speed.