Another big issue that americans have to deal with. It has been shown to be less harmfull then cigarettes in almost every aspect. I think denver legalized it for use in private (not in the streets)
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12-05-2006, 05:34 PM
I don't really have any views on drugs, since I'm not in favour of them, nor am I against them, but my step dad believes they should be made legal and free to end drug-related crime. After all, what's the point in getting involved with violence over something free?
If the UK didn't have a National Health Service, then I would say yes to legalising all drugs and making them entirely free; at least then I could sit back knowing my tax money isn't paying for the rehabilition and medical treatment of smackheads. Unless you have your own health insurance/plan, then you need to think twice about fucking yourself up. If you can't afford to get better, don't make yourself ill for the purpose of so-called 'recreation'.
I'm more bothered about knowing what my money's being spent on rather than what some people choose to do with their lives.
I don't believe that legalizing marijuana or any other drugs would do anyone any good. Granted, there might be less drug-related crimes, however, what will it do to future generations?
Have you ever seen a person high? They get really, really, reallystupid. They also make you very irresponsible. I had a friend who scheduled to box another guy at least 2 weeks in advance. However, when the time actually came for them to box, the other guy got so high he cancelled on my friend cuz he's too busy being stoned.
Drugs are especially harmful to teens-early adults. Studies have shown that the younger you are when you're exposed to drugs, the more likely its negative effects are going to damage your brain and other body parts.
Negative effects of drugs does not only affect one's physical health, but also other dimensions of a person's life. In my school, we've learned that health is composed of 5 elemts: physical, emotional, mental, social, and spiritual health. Causing a dent in any one of those dimensions and other dimensions are bound to be affected.
I don't believe that the crime deduction is more beneficial to people more than each individual's health, when all things are considered. (I don't mean to sound cruel, but I just think the latter affects the majority more than the prior)
Y'know, i'd love to share both Avarion & Elenoa's opinions but i doubt i'd be able to fit my head up their arse too.
Seriously, do you guys have that narrow-minded a view on everything?
The only reason that it hasn't ben legalised is basicly, nobody knows what the hell pure cannabis does to humans. Then again, we all know what pure alcohol does to us but that & multiple products for human consumption still seems to be legal & sold openly, tough break really.
Im sure scientists who do research into the medical benifits (such as pain relief for multiple sclerosis sufferers) of certain strains would have an easier time with their work if it was legal.
Im not going back to this topic again because, really, i've been involved in this discussion so many times & i know where it goes, the people who have no idea what the hell they are talking about, the "ugh.. im not paying for smackhead's NHS bills" (um, good for you, i think the legalise heroin topic is the next one down? o0) & the "have you seen stupid people smoke weed, they act stupid, they should take up boxing to save themselves from brain damage" crew always stick to their narrow-minded views, the people who know about weed cant take it seriously because, really, it is hard.... and anyone who wants to find out the real reasons goes off, realises how much info is available but cant develop an opinion because of both sides avoiding the reality of the situation and well get nowhere.
So um, yeah.
If legalised in a responsible & controlled way, legalise it.
Im off to rob some old lady to fund my habit, laters.
eh, cigarettes and alcohol are way harder on your body than marijuana as far as addiction and internal stuff goes. that doesnt mean that ANY of them are right. using the argument that one is no better than the other is correct because they all are harmful in their own ways.
and yes, getting rid of laws DOES reduce crime. lol. if there are no laws to break, no crime is commited.
as far as legalizing in a RESPONSIBLE and CONTROLLED way, there are always going to be people who will abuse it. have you ever actually tried to do anything with people who use drugs (and yes, alcohol is a drug) on a regular basis? or what about people just during those CASUAL use times? theyre pretty slow in the head, and its fairly hard to communicate with them.
why would you want to spread this beyond the few who choose to break the law now? oh, so people can have a good time? try something active (sports) or productive. (building/fixing/repairing) oh you argue that you can do both? good one, put down the pipe/drink/whatever until you start to make sense again. i know people who DO use regularly, and everything they do takes them twice as long as it should, and if theyre off drugs, it takes three times as long cause their body doesnt function right anymore.
I would like to see marijuana legal but only for medical benefits. If it can help people that are suffering then I am all for it. Yes I know that it can will be abused by some but the good it can do out weights the bad for me. As for everyday use I say no we do not need another substance out there that impairs the judgement of people just so they can have a good time.
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12-05-2006, 10:35 PM
The people that would smoke marijuana if it was legalized already smoke it. Just because something is legalized, it doesn't mean everyone will be doing it. Yes, there will be some people who jump on the boat cos they don't have any consequences with the law for it, but that is minimal.
It may just be my friends in school, but to me pot is just as good as legalized in my eyes. It is so mainstreamed already that there is no point in it being illegal anymore. Anyone that wants to do it, does it. It's not that hard, especially when you're in school.
I just think it's stupid that the government is wasting their time on something that is so out of their control. War on drugs my ass. Do something about heroin and crack.
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12-05-2006, 11:04 PM
Because casual marijuana users ("potheads") go out and shoot each other over it. Yes, I'm sure dealers do (not small time, dealing in schools, but importers), but the general stigma around pot is a very relaxed atmosphere.
And like I said, because it's such a relaxed atmosphere, all the people that would smoke pot, already are. Therefor the "abuse" you talk about is already occurring. Because it is illegal, casual smokers are getting arrested and filling up our prisons, wasting our tax money, when rapists and murderers go free.
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12-05-2006, 11:09 PM
And you think leagalizing it will solve that problem? A harsher punishment system needs to be implemented so that people think twice before breaking the law. Prison time just doesn't seem too intimidating. Perhaps a heavy fine would do.
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12-05-2006, 11:12 PM
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And you think leagalizing it will solve that problem? A harsher punishment system needs to be implemented so that people think twice before breaking the law. Prison time just doesn't seem too intimidating. Perhaps a heavy fine would do.
I don't think there is a problem that needs to be solved, personally. Yes people are getting killed and injured over it, but compared to other drugs, not so much. Prohibition never works. Didn't work with alcohol (still doesn't), doesn't work with cigarettes, doesn't work with drugs.
If I had to choose, I would prefer a fine to jail time, because jail can be used for more serious infractions of the law. But it tends to be that potheads are poor because it's expensive.
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12-05-2006, 11:20 PM
Prohibition doesn't work because the government refuses to. Alcohol and cigs aren't illegal because the people in the position of power to prohibit, use these drugs themselves. They may not be addicts, but prohibition would restrict their own "fun" as well. I would guess more government officials smoke cigars than they do pot. Maybe nothing should be done at all. Just personally, I'm not fond of smokers of any kind. I'll put it that way.
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12-05-2006, 11:25 PM
Well that explains a bit of where you're coming from. I'm not sure how legit the studies are, but I've heard smoking marijuana isn't even close to as bad as cigarettes are. But I'm sure cigarettes wouldn't be half as bad if they didn't put all the chemicals in it, and if it were just tobacco you were smoking.
And on the prohibition thing, I mean the current age restrictions on alcohol and cigarettes, and the past illegalization of alcohol (back in the 1920s).
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12-05-2006, 11:35 PM
Then why is marijuana used for medicinal purposes? I mean they could dismiss the lung health aspect as a side effect (just like other prescription drugs have side effects), or maybe they use a vaporizer...
*ponders*
I guess we just come from different backgrounds about it.
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