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Default 10-17-2006, 05:11 PM


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Why are you laughing? I can understand GT, but otherwise that's pathetic.
if i asked you to sneaker every mob that both of us fought would you do it?

how about asking a jester to make sure every single kern in the area is bleeding and stays bleeding?

with 15 int you simply dont have the mp to continually spam sf on both you and your partner for very long. aside from that it would slow down my own training to continually have to give us both full buffs and keep both of our buffs up and running.

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Default 10-17-2006, 07:56 PM
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if i asked you to sneaker every mob that both of us fought would you do it?
How is giving Protect even comparable to using Sneaker on every mob?
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Default 10-18-2006, 01:55 AM
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You don't need to rely on sets for defense.


Sure.
O i see.

Thanks thanks. Thank you so much ^^

One more question. Is 120 sta enough for aoeing pinkies? (hmm.... lets say with or without elemented suits)

Thank you in advanced ^^
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Default 10-18-2006, 08:02 AM
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How is giving Protect even comparable to using Sneaker on every mob?
sneakering one mob for me every 2 minutes then. and not being able to forget it without my spamming you with "sneaker!"

point is, it slows down training tremendously. its like if you still used gaurd every time that the timer cooled down. it slows you down, hence you wouldn't use it.
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Default 10-19-2006, 03:04 PM
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But I still agree with Ekanga on the "Anything pure build isn't the best their can be."
Well I dont think it's meant to be the best - as long as you can explain why its good and why it works for you, then its a good build.

A full str build is basically "hit as fucking hard as you can and try to level fast purely because of the damage you'll be able to deal, regardless of the danger your char may be in (from low sta/dex)".

In flyff, the damage you deal involves a lot of percentages. With pierce, it adds a percent. Refine adds a percent. Upcut stones/link attack and that girly crap add percentages to your damage too.

To make the most of these percentages, you need to have the base attack high so that when adding percentages of a high number ontop of a high number, you get an incredibly higher number.

If your attack was lower, a % increase won't be as effective as if you had higher base attack before shit likes percentages come into it (or atleast the ones that count a lot).

To quote Melan:
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In order to increase your damage, you have to bring your base damage HIGH so that once it is multiplied by all the above factors, your damage will get retardedly high.

If you still can't understand this forumla, just use this example.

1) You work at McDonalds making 6 dollars an hour, and now your boss tells you that hes going to give you a 20% raise....

Sounds great right, now imagine this

2) You work at McDonalds making 20 dollars an hour, now he tells you that you're going to recieve a 20% raise....

Obviously scenario 1 is a low STR blade. Recieving damage increase by multipliers when your base damage is terribly low doesn't mean much.

But in scenario 2, when you have an extremly high BASE number which gets multiplied, you will see a huge difference.
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Default 11-01-2006, 04:51 AM
Yay thanx for teh info o_o
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Default 11-06-2006, 09:43 AM
Hi,

good Post

But i am an 91 Knight on mushpoei. And i am still aoe and i thinking of keeping that.

i can tank all normal kerns and do 3k dmg or some more when i got a good rm.

Thats like .4 % each aoe.

If i go dex or str build i need to kill 10+ mobs in same time i do 1 aoe for the same exp.

I dont know if its better on this lvl.

but most knights on mush are dex/str and same on lawolf.

So can some1 tell me if dex is much better then aoe?

greetings
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Default 11-06-2006, 09:45 AM
Hey, MonCherry. I've seen you on.

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But i am an 91 Knight on mushpoei. And i am still aoe and i thinking of keeping that.

i can tank all normal kerns and do 3k dmg or some more when i got a good rm.

Thats like .4 % each aoe.

If i go dex or str build i need to kill 10+ mobs in same time i do 1 aoe for the same exp.
Kerns have a pretty spread apart spawn. You could easily kill 8-10 of them in the time it takes to gather/kill them all. Most Knights have base DEX, and use a +8 or higher set and have a RM. You'd have very nice accuracy (make sure to master Blazing Sword).
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Default 11-06-2006, 09:53 AM
hi,

i dont rlly know if its better and if it is then i think of restating when i go glaphans, or even later when i am 96+

I found a very good normal spawn just after the smalls.

but kills a dex knight faster then bp's/ blades?

It's hard to find out what is better i think.

i got some money but i want to buy myself a bike else i tested it alrdy
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Default 11-06-2006, 10:38 AM
A properly built 1v1 Knight will level as fast as Blades and BPs.
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Default 11-06-2006, 10:44 AM
ok,

i will stay aoe and try dex some lvls later.

ty for help
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Default 11-06-2006, 10:46 AM
Well, I don't know much about Mush, but if Glaphs aren't crowded, you can stay with AOEing.
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Default 11-06-2006, 11:02 AM
ok, it isnt very crowded yet.

so i will try it like this then.

But first the server need back to work lol alrdy waiting some time now
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Default 11-06-2006, 11:22 AM
kickass thread *touched* *_______*

answered like 70% of the questions i was wondering about <3 *lazyness ftw*


greetz bio
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Default 11-06-2006, 12:17 PM
That's awesome, perfect guide. I love it

Now powerlevel so i can do all those things listed above please.
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