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decent review and coming from someone who used to play i have to agree a bit

[Gustaf]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Shinzo @ Jul 22 2006, 12:14 AM) [snapback]110830[/snapback]</div>

When is the last time you saw a doctor grab a gun and start unloading rounds into the enemies? Never, that's when.


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Wrong. Resident Evil Outbreak I

[Blaaaaaaaah]

I understand you have the right to express your opinions about flyff. But I have a few things to say about your review, and this is going to be just as long as yours =) [I haven't read all the replies yet, but if I said something someone else said, just ignore it =)]
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(GameReviewer @ Jul 22 2006, 08:02 AM) [snapback]110692[/snapback]</div>

Please be considerate in helping flyff become a better game and post open mindedly on your opinions of what you like and don't like.
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If you really want to help flyff become better, how about some suggestions as well instead just of complaining about it?
Also, how long have you been playing? Please make sure you have done a sufficient about of research before you make a review on the game. Let's see:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(GameReviewer @ Jul 22 2006, 08:02 AM) [snapback]110692[/snapback]</div>

And do you know how pvp works in Flyff? Basically well, there is no real reason to pvping other then its fun. If you are an h4rdc0r3 pvper you will be granted with useless ranks that do nothing at all that and apparently are for show. Some of the ranks are so ridiculously hard to get in Flyff like trying to obtain 5000 wins to get my “Super Destroyer. “Type rank. Which makes me wonder why in the hell is the purpose of it. Usually in MMORPGs some hard task is given and after you accomplishment some reward is treated after the hard work, HA, not in the uber fun non-wasteful time world of Flyff though!
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The bolded bit has got nothing to do with pvp? And as far as I know, there is a PK Server in each cluster, which is more than just getting a title when you win a duel. Please go look up information about it.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(GameReviewer @ Jul 22 2006, 08:02 AM) [snapback]110692[/snapback]</div>

Currently (or last time I was playing.) there was only one type of guild match. Kill the guild master, and you win the duel.
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I thought there's another mode called "Death Match" where the guild members have to kill the entire opposing guild in order to win. But please correct me if I'm wrong.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(GameReviewer @ Jul 22 2006, 08:02 AM) [snapback]110692[/snapback]</div>

You will find that a lot of high level mages will have there stats go all STA for the fact that it’s better then what is supposed to be given. A mage not using magic power for there stats? Wtf?
[/b]

That's why there's a thing called "different builds" for each class. If each class always use the same stats all the time, what's the fun of that then?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(GameReviewer @ Jul 22 2006, 08:02 AM) [snapback]110692[/snapback]</div>

After the duel has started he/she will put on the 1337 knight gear and own ya revealing that they were 38 levels higher then you from the start.
[/b]

Level gap is 30 levels for pvp. Please use a better example.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(GameReviewer @ Jul 22 2006, 08:02 AM) [snapback]110692[/snapback]</div>

There are official stupid rules that can get you banned in Flyff to. Some of these rules are hardly enforced but still illegal. In the real world, when someone does an illegal thing, the police make an attempt to try to settle things.
[/b]

You see, FlyFF is a game, not the real world.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(GameReviewer @ Jul 22 2006, 08:02 AM) [snapback]110692[/snapback]</div>

There are numerous bugs and glitches in Flyff. Some glitches actually aid you. Like the jump on the green platform and AOE the fishes with your bad ele. Doing this will actually get you banned. From what I heard this rule is enforced. Isn’t it the human mind's job to rightly do the best decision to aid him/her in everyway?
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But you were just saying that those rules should be being enforced by the GMs and all. You say afk buff training is not good, but people are just training their buffs up to "aid him/herself" and also to help out others in FlyFF. So, are you saying the GMs should or should not enforce the rules?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(GameReviewer @ Jul 22 2006, 08:02 AM) [snapback]110692[/snapback]</div>

I’m talking what separates the lifers with the no-lifers (you know you are a no-lifer if you have more then one person playing your level 102 psy)
[/b]

I thought you're making a review about the game, not reviewing whether high level players have a life or not.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(GameReviewer @ Jul 22 2006, 08:02 AM) [snapback]110692[/snapback]</div>

After so long , it becomes impossible to do things by yourself and you will be forced into having to party with a group of other high leveled people in a party level of around 70+ to move your damn freaking experience percentage bar. Jesus!
[/b]

MMORPG = Massive Multiplayer Online Role Play Game. Partying and training with friends is the whole point to this Multiplayer idea.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(GameReviewer @ Jul 22 2006, 08:02 AM) [snapback]110692[/snapback]</div>

- When searching for a duel many players are rude and try to hide there level by disguising there self as a low leveled player...why should I have to put up with this bull?
- Newbs food / pot spam, come on...
- Well it has your average assholes , nice people , funny people , rich people , non talking people , what ever people ,
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You said it yourself, FlyFF has its average "assholes". That will explain your complaint about level fakers and food spammers.

Blah, there's more, but it's getting too long and I can't be bothered to type anymore. My review on your review: 2/10. 4 points for not researching about the game properly and 4 points for not using proper English. The remaining 2 points is for the effort and I do agree with some of your points.

By the way, you spelt "FlyFF" wrong in the title of your thread.

* Edited spelling errors *

[Konnoryuu]

Sure the game is just a massive grind, but really, in a world where games are designed with an "everything but the kitchen sink" objective in mind, isn't it just a little... refreshing... to play something that's simple and easy to grasp?[/b]

This.

[Canary]

I counted 4 uses of the word "Gay" in derogotory usage within two paragraphs.

Can't take that review seriously. At all. :angry:

[lovecook]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Setzer @ Jul 22 2006, 03:40 AM) [snapback]110892[/snapback]</div>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Stigemann @ Jul 22 2006, 01:02 AM) [snapback]110877[/snapback]

You can't compare Flyff to todays MMORPGs that cost money. The graphics are actually very good for a free game, and no, the PS1 could never process this kind of graphics. And if you want a story, play an RPG. MMORPGs are not exactly known for story-type playing.
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So what's the RPG stand for in MMO'RPG'. There sure as hell isn't any 'role playing' in FlyFF or 100 other MMORPG's. I'm stumped. If there's no story and there's no role playing then we're all retards for playing games that have NO other purpose then to meet new people and repeat the same processes over and over for hours at a time every day.

I honestly don't know where you pulled the bolded part from, but that's Exactally what MMORPG's are supposed to be known for. 'Online' MMORPG's suck, story wise, they suck and that's all there is to it. If you actually want a game with a good story, or atleast SOME story then buy a console game or a single player RPG game for computer.

If you're not confused yet, then whoa, because I'm confused and I have no idea what point I was trying to make.
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Neither do I lol. Ok let's start.
Yes there is role-playing in Flyff. You take on a role of a Vagrant and progress through lvls while earning experience, skills and new equipment. That's the heart of all RPG's.

Nope, MMORPG's are supposed to be known for large communities and freedom to do what you want in the game instead of following a story. Oh, and you can't put "Online" in front of MMORPG, because then it would be "Online Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game".

[Doommaster!]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Ricky @ Jul 22 2006, 01:20 AM) [snapback]110755[/snapback]</div>

Despite what you said about reading all, I didnt, sorry, just read the graphics review and I think 3 out of 10 for graphics is way to low. FlyFF graphics are great for an online game. Have you ever noticed how each of the mobs has its own unique animation. Seriously, spend 2 minutes just looking at a Totemia and you're going to role over laughing, or the animation for the assist. The dude is a super skinny freak trying to show chest muscles. Those little things give this game a character. There's no way I can agree that the graphiics deserve a 3 out of 10. I still wont vote for the review until i eventually read the whole thing but so far it looks like you're just trying to let off some steam and not being totally unbias, and why on earth did you create a new profile just to post this? then say something like, "You can ban me IDC" that's just wrong man, if you want to speak your mind then do it like a man.
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Theres only one game that deserves thumbs up for graphics, that no other game will compare to... is Kal... PROPER water, BIG forests and everything...

[Kieran Blade]

OMMORPG? Doesn't make much sense, does it?

[Doommaster!]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Bak12 @ Jul 22 2006, 01:55 AM) [snapback]110812[/snapback]</div>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Doommaster! @ Jul 21 2006, 03:47 PM) [snapback]110720[/snapback]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Bak12 @ Jul 22 2006, 12:42 AM) [snapback]110716[/snapback]

43? DoomMaster? I suggest sucking it up now, or quitting the game. At this rate you won't even reach Ringmaster, or ever "Realise the feel...." (Taken straight from your thread title) of getting there.
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DUDE! I CLEARY SAID... WHEN I STARTED THE GAME I THOUGHT IT WAS CHEAP AND KAL WAS BETTER... thats all im saying

also dont give me that "suck it up" theres some rediculace stuff there! YOU DONT GET THE "FEEL" WHEN ITS THIS HARD!
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It's an mmo, all mmo's need time and patience to play. It's not like "ZOMG I HOP I GET 2 60 LIEK IN A WEEK SO I CAN GET THE FEEL OF RINGMASTER LOLZ". What rediculous things are there in this game? Unbalanced pvp? Oh BOOOHOOOO, so what if blades suck at pvp, so what if rm's can't compete with other classes in pvp (It's a god damn support class to begin with in the first place). I mean seriously, how hard is this game? You point, double click, pot, kill the monster, and repeat the process. .5% is GREAT exp, especially if you find a great aoe partner to level with, and you'll level in no time at all. I get .07 killing monsters that a 9 levels higher then me.

Oh yeah, Suck it up junior.

Also, it's spelt "Rediculous".
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Yes your right, it is sapposed to be long, BUT NOT THIS LONG! from lvl 20 - 30 takes how long? LIKE A WEEK! BUT... from 30 - 40 takes MONTHS! and it only gets worse... take Kal, you choose a warrior right, you can gain 20 lvls in one day if you tried! BUT, what they did is have a lot of lvls and make the monsters stronger... NOW THAT MAKES SENSE! WITH THAT GAME YOU CAN ACTUALLY MAKE IT TOO THE END WITHING A YEAR!

but no matter what you people say i wont believe in the buffs.... its too long people... WAY to long. im not even going to waste my time trying to get all my buffs to lvl 10... I HAVE A LIFE!

[lovecook]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Doommaster! @ Jul 22 2006, 03:29 PM) [snapback]111116[/snapback]</div>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Bak12 @ Jul 22 2006, 01:55 AM) [snapback]110812[/snapback]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Doommaster! @ Jul 21 2006, 03:47 PM) [snapback]110720[/snapback]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Bak12 @ Jul 22 2006, 12:42 AM) [snapback]110716[/snapback]

43? DoomMaster? I suggest sucking it up now, or quitting the game. At this rate you won't even reach Ringmaster, or ever "Realise the feel...." (Taken straight from your thread title) of getting there.
[/b]

DUDE! I CLEARY SAID... WHEN I STARTED THE GAME I THOUGHT IT WAS CHEAP AND KAL WAS BETTER... thats all im saying

also dont give me that "suck it up" theres some rediculace stuff there! YOU DONT GET THE "FEEL" WHEN ITS THIS HARD!
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It's an mmo, all mmo's need time and patience to play. It's not like "ZOMG I HOP I GET 2 60 LIEK IN A WEEK SO I CAN GET THE FEEL OF RINGMASTER LOLZ". What rediculous things are there in this game? Unbalanced pvp? Oh BOOOHOOOO, so what if blades suck at pvp, so what if rm's can't compete with other classes in pvp (It's a god damn support class to begin with in the first place). I mean seriously, how hard is this game? You point, double click, pot, kill the monster, and repeat the process. .5% is GREAT exp, especially if you find a great aoe partner to level with, and you'll level in no time at all. I get .07 killing monsters that a 9 levels higher then me.

Oh yeah, Suck it up junior.

Also, it's spelt "Rediculous".
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Yes your right, it is sapposed to be long, BUT NOT THIS LONG! from lvl 20 - 30 takes how long? LIKE A WEEK! BUT... from 30 - 40 takes MONTHS! and it only gets worse... take Kal, you choose a warrior right, you can gain 20 lvls in one day if you tried! BUT, what they did is have a lot of lvls and make the monsters stronger... NOW THAT MAKES SENSE! WITH THAT GAME YOU CAN ACTUALLY MAKE IT TOO THE END WITHING A YEAR!

but no matter what you people say i wont believe in the buffs.... its too long people... WAY to long. im not even going to waste my time trying to get all my buffs to lvl 10... I HAVE A LIFE!
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If you spend a week getting from 20-30, you suck at this game.
If you spend months getting from 30-40, you suck even more at this game.

If you make it to the end of an MMORPG within a year, that MMORPG isn't worth playing, and would have no players left after a year.

[Digitalhaze]

Either you haven't played flyff much or you don't like to grind. There isn't much depth to this game, on the outside, but if you dig a little (okay a lot) you can spends years of your life trying to make the perfect build.

I'm also going to illustrate why you know nothing about pvp. Like any mmo, certain classes shouldn't even bother stepping foot into the pvp arena. In flyff, those two classes are Ringmasters and Blades. Blades are usually built for speed with lowish def and thus can't take a hit before they can deal out their damage. RingMasters are a support class, they aren't ment to PVP period. Both these classes can hold their own in the arena if you build them so, but most people don't.

Now, it's a well known fact Yoyo Acrobats will hand anyone their asses from 30-60. This is due to the simple fact that they have crossline. After job change things start to even out. Bp's have their speed (or sonic hand, their choice) + stonehand, not to mention asal at 80. Knights have their stupidly high def. rate + Powerstump. Psy's have psy-bomb, crucio AND satanology. Ele's deal OMFG type damage. Rangers can attack from a fair distance, plus have silent arrow and fast shot. And Jesters still have crossline + 4x crit rate and hit of penya along with a few other skills that make them deadly.

After 60 PVP becomes who can get off their ass raping skill first, thus dominating the battle from there on in. In flyff there really isn't a thing like a close battle (it's rare). Usually you can tell who's going to win in the first couple seconds.

Seriously this review sucked.

[Santoryu]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Stigemann @ Jul 22 2006, 09:55 AM) [snapback]111122[/snapback]</div>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Doommaster! @ Jul 22 2006, 03:29 PM) [snapback]111116[/snapback]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Bak12 @ Jul 22 2006, 01:55 AM) [snapback]110812[/snapback]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Doommaster! @ Jul 21 2006, 03:47 PM) [snapback]110720[/snapback]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Bak12 @ Jul 22 2006, 12:42 AM) [snapback]110716[/snapback]

43? DoomMaster? I suggest sucking it up now, or quitting the game. At this rate you won't even reach Ringmaster, or ever "Realise the feel...." (Taken straight from your thread title) of getting there.
[/b]

DUDE! I CLEARY SAID... WHEN I STARTED THE GAME I THOUGHT IT WAS CHEAP AND KAL WAS BETTER... thats all im saying

also dont give me that "suck it up" theres some rediculace stuff there! YOU DONT GET THE "FEEL" WHEN ITS THIS HARD!
[/b][/quote]


It's an mmo, all mmo's need time and patience to play. It's not like "ZOMG I HOP I GET 2 60 LIEK IN A WEEK SO I CAN GET THE FEEL OF RINGMASTER LOLZ". What rediculous things are there in this game? Unbalanced pvp? Oh BOOOHOOOO, so what if blades suck at pvp, so what if rm's can't compete with other classes in pvp (It's a god damn support class to begin with in the first place). I mean seriously, how hard is this game? You point, double click, pot, kill the monster, and repeat the process. .5% is GREAT exp, especially if you find a great aoe partner to level with, and you'll level in no time at all. I get .07 killing monsters that a 9 levels higher then me.

Oh yeah, Suck it up junior.

Also, it's spelt "Rediculous".
[/b][/quote]

Yes your right, it is sapposed to be long, BUT NOT THIS LONG! from lvl 20 - 30 takes how long? LIKE A WEEK! BUT... from 30 - 40 takes MONTHS! and it only gets worse... take Kal, you choose a warrior right, you can gain 20 lvls in one day if you tried! BUT, what they did is have a lot of lvls and make the monsters stronger... NOW THAT MAKES SENSE! WITH THAT GAME YOU CAN ACTUALLY MAKE IT TOO THE END WITHING A YEAR!

but no matter what you people say i wont believe in the buffs.... its too long people... WAY to long. im not even going to waste my time trying to get all my buffs to lvl 10... I HAVE A LIFE!
[/b][/quote]

If you spend a week getting from 20-30, you suck at this game.
If you spend months getting from 30-40, you suck even more at this game.

If you make it to the end of an MMORPG within a year, that MMORPG isn't worth playing, and would have no players left after a year.
[/b][/quote]



this game can be easily conquered in a year, no offense but maples grind makes the grind on this game look weak

[AJtheBaka]

A lot of this review is crap... and it sounds like you just want to bash it, not constructively criticise it...

Jeez, such low scores, and on graphics?! You've got to be kidding me, these graphics are great for a free game. Most free games have 2D graphics anyways... or 2D graphics that look 3D, but those are wannabe graphics xD

You can't say the music is horrible and disgusting. Sure, some of it does sound like elevator music (Walking around the islands Flaris or Saintmorning), but I love a lot of the music, ESPECIALLY battle music >=O and town music (Saintmorning Town Music is really awesome xD). You don't deserve ears Mr. Crappyreview, please give them to some deaf person.

If you're not happy with the story (Even though there is some, hiding away in scenario quests) make one up for your character! I do that with every MMO I play and I tie it in with the game's story. (There's your role-playing)

Flying is fun. Going to the highest point with your broom/board then getting off of it and falling into some big pit is even more fun. Flying is also fun for showing off, I make dives into the Duel Arena then shoot back up (I look so cool xD). You can also race while flying, I did it with my bro before (First to attack giant mushpang wins!).

I don't have much knowledge about stat builds, but I heard full STA isn't what everyone does, and it isn't always the best. Full STR with an assist to heal you can be pretty powerful, too, so your build depends on what you want to do. Group? PK? Solo? Your choice.

Ringmasters aren't meant to solo PK. DUH

People open up shop when they have to leave, do something, blah. Who cares if they're AFK? If people couldn't go AFK and have shops, people wouldn't vend so much, ruining a chunk of the game.

You whine how rules aren't enforced, then you whine how a rule is enforced? Dang, sounds like you want a game that's only perfect to you and you get all of the 1337 cash/armor/exp while everyone else works for their stuff.

MMORPG. You play to play with others. If you couldn't interact with other players, no one would play it. Grouping with others changes things up and makes things more interesting.

Okay, I'm only level 27 (Been playing for a week, so it doesn't take you a week to get from 20-30 to whoever said that), so I'm not ultra-knowledgable about the game, but it doesn't sound like Mr. Crappyreview is either. Oh, and Mr. Crappyreview needs to go play Maple Story (Have fun grinding even harder!) or Runescape(RS is where over-excessive 'ghey' using people go).

BTW, you spelled FlyFF wrong.

[Belsebub]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(AJtheBaka @ Jul 22 2006, 03:22 PM) [snapback]111151[/snapback]</div>

A lot of this review is crap... and it sounds like you just want to bash it, not constructively criticise it...

Jeez, such low scores, and on graphics?! You've got to be kidding me, these graphics are great for a free game. Most free games have 2D graphics anyways... or 2D graphics that look 3D, but those are wannabe graphics xD

You can't say the music is horrible and disgusting. Sure, some of it does sound like elevator music (Walking around the islands Flaris or Saintmorning), but I love a lot of the music, ESPECIALLY battle music >=O and town music (Saintmorning Town Music is really awesome xD). You don't deserve ears Mr. Crappyreview, please give them to some deaf person.

If you're not happy with the story (Even though there is some, hiding away in scenario quests) make one up for your character! I do that with every MMO I play and I tie it in with the game's story. (There's your role-playing)

Flying is fun. Going to the highest point with your broom/board then getting off of it and falling into some big pit is even more fun. Flying is also fun for showing off, I make dives into the Duel Arena then shoot back up (I look so cool xD). You can also race while flying, I did it with my bro before (First to attack giant mushpang wins!).

I don't have much knowledge about stat builds, but I heard full STA isn't what everyone does, and it isn't always the best. Full STR with an assist to heal you can be pretty powerful, too, so your build depends on what you want to do. Group? PK? Solo? Your choice.

Ringmasters aren't meant to solo PK. DUH

People open up shop when they have to leave, do something, blah. Who cares if they're AFK? If people couldn't go AFK and have shops, people wouldn't vend so much, ruining a chunk of the game.

You whine how rules aren't enforced, then you whine how a rule is enforced? Dang, sounds like you want a game that's only perfect to you and you get all of the 1337 cash/armor/exp while everyone else works for their stuff.

MMORPG. You play to play with others. If you couldn't interact with other players, no one would play it. Grouping with others changes things up and makes things more interesting.

Okay, I'm only level 27 (Been playing for a week, so it doesn't take you a week to get from 20-30 to whoever said that), so I'm not ultra-knowledgable about the game, but it doesn't sound like Mr. Crappyreview is either. Oh, and Mr. Crappyreview needs to go play Maple Story (Have fun grinding even harder!) or Runescape(RS is where over-excessive 'ghey' using people go).

BTW, you spelled FlyFF wrong.
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AJ I met you in Jail lol, anyways back to topic.... How can u complain about flyff, its better than most other games, and is FREE, sit down shut up and be happy. Adn the graphics are good considering that flyff is free....

[Susha]

Maybe we should stop this topic, because all were doing is giving him what he wants, which is to flame and fight =.=