[MythicLegend]

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With all the new awakenings + the new cards you can use on things, it might be possible for a ranger to get 100% crit?

The only question would be who would crit harder, ranger or jester?

[STAN3x]

Ranger.
Ulti bow is pretty much the only deciding factor, since both classes can get the 40% crit damage from hyper/cruiser. Jesters just get to 100% easier, but rangers could definitely outdamage them with the same % crit and an ulti bow.

[Shaoran]

For suuuure. Rangers have Ulti bow which has more atk rate and can get +75 DEX. Do not forget their master/hero skill that helps at 1x1 too. ;D

[MythicLegend]

I probably should have just kept my mouth shut so I could be original with a 1v1 ranger with 100% crit...

*hopes no one sees this post now*

[AoEOfArrows]

Rangers could get 100% crits even at v11 and probably 98~% crits at v10. But while they need (and will need) some crapload of money to get it even on v12, all a BJ needs is 250 DEX.

[Sinner]

Without an ultimate bow? No, while rangers are working to get 100% crit, bow jesters can improve their attack rate or crit damage, getting an even bigger lead.

With an ultimate bow it'd be close but I can still see jesters winning.

[STAN3x]

Well... depends if the ranger could get 100% crit without relying on awakens or not.
If they can then yeah, they'll win sheerly because of ulti bow... but if not then they'll have to sacrifice crit damage awakens for crit and yeah.

[MythicLegend]

well a level 120 ranger HERO would have like 360 points of dex, I'm not sure if thats 10 per 1% crit, but I'll assume. so thats 36% crit there plus the 21% from the 120 set, so thats 57% just in base stats.
We'll give him a near perfect pet with 70 dex adding 7% crit up to 64%, and we'll throw in a +10 ultimate bow with 5 diamond +dex giving 7% more crit, leaving you with 71%....so yea, you would deffinitly have to have awakenings with +crit% on them....and blessings

The only reason I think a ranger still might be better than a jester is because of base attack rate per dex for the bow. Rangers is higher I think which would make their normal(non +crit dmg) crits alot stronger than a jesters

[infected1989]

A Ranger is mostly likely going to use the 120 set simply because it adds Critrate, which is harder to get than raw damage, along with the HP/defense. That means you lose 40% critdamage off your set. Also, Bow Jesters would probably use STR/Critdmg cards on their weapon, where a Ranger would use DEX/crit. What it basically ends up at is the Bow Jester having quite a bit more critdamage, and the Ranger having more HP, defense and raw attackrate. (So higher skill damage + more skills to use)

Which will do more damage? I don't think anyone can tell for sure, as it's not easy to make an accurate estimate of the effect and limit of critdamage. A Ranger will have to pay more to be as good, but it will make you better overall thanks to the better survivability and higher leveling speed.

EDIT: Fuck DEX pets btw, Unicorns > every other pet for bow users.

[Tor]

Max damage, rangers definately should have the higher amount. But damage per second is gonna depend on how much a ranger spends, equips. I think in most cases, BJ usually outdamage rangers 1v1. 80% crit damage with 100% crit while a ranger 80% crit damage with 40% crit or whatever big difference.

I think if you have 60% crit for a ranger, things start to even out when you haev the ultimate bow, comparing a BJ (non-ultimate bow) and Ranger (with ultimate bow).

[infected1989]

I think the main potential Rangers have over Bow Jesters is PvP damage slapped on an ulti+10. But yeah it's quite sad how Rangers have to fork over so much money to beat BJs when it comes to 1v1.

[Shaoran]

Well, he was talking about who would crit harder. The Ranger definately would, since we are talking about making a "record" the ranger doesn't need to have 100% crit to do that. Means the ranger could focus on +atk rate and +crit % damage too.

[GauBan]

The money a Ranger spends on crit can be used on a bJ to get more crit damage, especially since high crit damage awakes seem to be much easier to get the crit rate%. Bows low damage means that anything under a maxed crit rate really reduces 1v1 damage, in terms of a single shot a ranger can do better; but since mellee is mostly all blocked pvp who cares about one big charged shot that may miss 45-80% of the time.

Rangers may get the advantage for things like met kills, 20% crit bloodie set with Hp means they have much less stam requirements then a bJ will need to survive.

[AoEOfArrows]

Originally Posted by GauBan

The money a Ranger spends on crit can be used on a bJ to get more crit damage, especially since high crit damage awakes seem to be much easier to get the crit rate%. Bows low damage means that anything under a maxed crit rate really reduces 1v1 damage, in terms of a single shot a ranger can do better; but since mellee is mostly all blocked pvp who cares about one big charged shot that may miss 45-80% of the time.

Rangers may get the advantage for things like met kills, 20% crit bloodie set with Hp means they have much less stam requirements then a bJ will need to survive.

Unless for PvP, BJs won`t need defense, cause they have higher block modifier than Rangers+PB and all the other crap Rangers can get :3...but yeah, that`s the only thing Rangers with 100% crits and 40% c. damage will do better than BJs with 100% crits and 80% c. damage.

[iRang3r]

It might just be me, but arn't 1v1 rangers pointless?