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Skullnuck
Mothbee
 
Default Magician, build - 05-31-2009, 07:26 PM
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I am a level 42 mage and i have no idea what to do!

My build is sta=37 Int=75

My abilities are (this is the highest one so on the third one)
Fire= 15 Thunder=3 mental strike= full everything else 0

So my question is what should i do with my build? abilities? and what job should i have at then end phykeeper or elementor and what type?


Sorry for spelling errors

I have no idea what i am supposed to do so help would be appreciated XDDDDD
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Luciana
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Psykeeper Of The Year
 
Default 05-31-2009, 07:46 PM
I'll quote a old post I did to help someone. I hope this helps you too. Any question just ask. Also, do you still have your reskill? If so, hold it for level 65 or so. There are 3 skills for each element (fire, wind, water, eletric and earth). I don't know which fire skill you got to level 15 but if it was the first or the second, you just wasted points. If it was the third, you are good. The third skill will be always the strongest one, except for the earth element, since the last skill "Rooting" don't deal any damage.

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Both jobs are good but thats really up to you. I will make a small review about them:

Elementors:

- More skills [2 of each element (x5 1v1, x5 AoE), 5 masteries and another 4 AoE skills;
- Not as efficient as psies on PvP;
- More damage on PvM; (comparing to psykeepers)
- Low defense;

They can be Hit and Run, Pseudo-Tanker and Tanker.

The HnR elementor will kill monsters at a high level to get fast EXP. That kind of elementor will gather the monsters with windfield (to slow 'em down, since the skill leaves a debuff of -50% speed on the opponent - PS: The chance of slowing down the enemy is not 100%). The drop rate isn't very good though.
• Build: Full INT or 30 STA, rest INT
• Skills used: Windfield, Wind Mastery and Poison something (the water AoE for elementors).

The Pseudo-Tanker will gather the monsters with staff (melee) and then kill them with windfield (hit and running). That way you can kill monsters with around 10 levels above you and gather as many as you want but the drop rate isn't as good as it is for tankers.
• Build: 60 STA, rest INT
• Skills used: Windfield and Wind Mastery.

The Tanker elementor will gather the monsters with staff and/or windfield, depends of your preference. Like mentioned before, the defense for elementors is not very good so I don't recommend you to turn a tanker elementor. The damage is kinda low, but the drop rate is awesome if you have party skills on.
• Build: 120 STA, rest INT
• Skills used: All the AOE skills except the Fire and Water ones; Wind, Earth and Eletricity mastery.

Psykeepers:

- Only have 8 skills;
- More efficient on PvP;
- Less damage on PvM; (comparing to elementors)
- High defense while comparing to elementors.

There are 3 kinds of psykeepers as well. They can be Crucio Psykeeper, Satanology Psykeeper and AoEr Psykeeper.

The Crucio psy will kill monsters at a high level with the skill named crucio, which reflects 200% damage. Meaning if the monster do a hit of 1k on you, it will receive 2k back. Also means that a RM or Assist with maxed heal and a decent amount of INT is required. The more STA, HP and Def you can get, the better. Fast leveling but the drop rate isn't good. Also, after level 78, they start to level slowly, so you gotta turn a Satanology Psykeeper or an AoEr Psykeeper.
• Build: Full STA or 140-150 STA and then start pumping INT to be AoEr in the future.
• Skill used: Crucio Spell

The Satanology psy will kill monsters with no more than 6-7 levels above. They can kill monsters at with 10-11 levels above? Yes, but you will take ages to kill them.
As a satan psy, you will use satan on the monster (prevents the monster from approaching) and then kill it with spirit bomb (strongest skill for psykeepers). The monster wont get near you, but you gotta take care with agros if you are leveling outside Azria. I don't recommend you to be a satan psy because the leveling is painful. The damage is low and you will kill slowly, what results in a low EXP/hour.
• Build: Full INT. Don't add STA to this build, it really wont help that much.
• Skills used: Satanology and Spirit Bomb.

The AoEr psykeeper is the best one, in my opinion. You can AoE monsters near your level, the drop rate is good and so is the EXP/hour. It isnt as fast as crucio psies are, but it's still better, 'cause you make money while grinding. Can you do crucio with AoE build? Yes. Grab a STA awakened Wand and Shield (any level for wand, the higher level for the shield, the better), STA helmet (any as well) and STA rings if you want to. With that stuff you can get to a good amount of STA.
• Build: 100-120 STA rest INT.
• Skills used: Crucio Spell, Maximum Crisis (AoE Skill) and Psychic Square*.
*Psychic Square has a delay of 10 seconds to re-use. It's an AoE skill and it's stronger than maximum crisis, but most of the psys don't use it.
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Skullnuck
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Default 05-31-2009, 07:55 PM
My fire is the third level btw so the strong one... also with my build at skills what do u think is best for me? I want something that levels pretty fast and something i dont get bored of. But if it is impossible with my current build then please tell what you think i should become.
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Luciana
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Psykeeper Of The Year
 
Default 06-01-2009, 06:22 AM
First of all you need to choose which job you want to follow, psykeeper or elementor.

With your current build you could go satan psykeeper or HnR elementor. Satan psykeeper is the slowest job at leveling and HnR is the fastest one, but when you get to level 115 or so, hit and running won't work very well and you have to start tanking at tower.

Imo the best would be AoE psykeeper. You have 37 STA atm, if you add STA from now (level 42) until level 65 you'll have 83 STA, which is ok to AoE at the start. Then you keep adding STA, until you have 110-120 STA. You could go pseudo-tanking elementors too, which requires 60 STA or an amount around that.
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121097
Burudeng
 
Default 06-01-2009, 02:03 PM
its ur choice

it doesnt really matter
ur build works for both
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Skullnuck
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Default 06-01-2009, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Luciana View Post
First of all you need to choose which job you want to follow, psykeeper or elementor.

With your current build you could go satan psykeeper or HnR elementor. Satan psykeeper is the slowest job at leveling and HnR is the fastest one, but when you get to level 115 or so, hit and running won't work very well and you have to start tanking at tower.

Imo the best would be AoE psykeeper. You have 37 STA atm, if you add STA from now (level 42) until level 65 you'll have 83 STA, which is ok to AoE at the start. Then you keep adding STA, until you have 110-120 STA. You could go pseudo-tanking elementors too, which requires 60 STA or an amount around that.

I am stuck between pseudo-tanker elementor, HnR elementor and AOE psykeeper... GR
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Ziolean
Mushpang
 
Default 06-01-2009, 05:18 PM


I need help on choosing what I should be :/
And yes, I still have skill reset.
I am thinking INT 2:1 STA
or FULL INT FROM NOW ON.
Help please, ty.

I wanna be a crucio psy. too late?

Last edited by Ziolean; 06-01-2009 at 05:20 PM.
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Luciana
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Psykeeper Of The Year
 
Default 06-01-2009, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Skullnuck View Post
I am stuck between pseudo-tanker elementor, HnR elementor and AOE psykeeper... GR
You can easily be any of those. Personally I prefer AoE psykeepers 'cause psies are better for pvp than elementors and I like to do PvP battles a lot. But for leveling I think elementors are better, pseudo-tanker and HnR, both level faster than psykeepers if you know how to do it properly.
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Skullnuck
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Default 06-01-2009, 07:00 PM
is pvp only for duels and battle arena?

and how hard is it too learn elemetor things (those that i listed. (sorry for so many questions)

Last edited by Skullnuck; 06-01-2009 at 07:06 PM.
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DrCoolSanta
Basque
 
Default 06-01-2009, 10:08 PM
Skullnuck, do you have the ReSkill you get from the first job?

PvP is what you are playing this game for, whats the fun in only PvM? There is the Battle Arena, Duels, Guild Seige etc.

@ pseudo-tanker elementor, HnR elementor and AOE psykeeper
If you have to choose between these, I'll devide the option into the two jobs...

AoE Psykeeper: You'd be pretty much like other AoE classes. You would Crucio so that the mob gets hit too each time it hits you. Your leveling style will be moderate, much like any other AoE but the only drawback is that Mages have less HP and so a smaller spawn or low level mobs . . . THis also means that you will have to have an FS with you and some food too at all times. It is impossible to level efficiently without an FS.
As PvPer, you have got really useful skills. Mages naturally have a lot of damage so killing would be pretty easy. Those that hit you would do a lot of damage to you too sadly because of low HP. But you have useful skills like Satanology to root your enemy. And Psychic Wall will help a lot to get rid of Merc and Assist classes.

As an Elementor, you have 2 options, either to HnR or do pseudo tanking. HnR as said is impossible at around level 115, at that point you will have to pseudo tank. Explaining like this is hard, there are guides on FW with videos of both HnR and Pseudo Tanking. As HnR you will try to windfield so that the mob is not as fast as you and you will try to stay away from the mob at all times. They won't hit you, so less HP is not an issue. As an HnR you have to understand that you will die a lot, and each mob will take around 10-15 mins to kill too. But the EXP will be good enough to make up for it. The only need for FS for HnR is for buffs and a leech. If they follow you around or try to heal you, both of you will be dead so dont even think about it. And lastly, HnR is a technique, a strategy, you need to understand how to do it, you have toi learn it, most people just give up on HnR when they find it hard and they start tanking. Some even get AoE BPs to tank the mobs and AoE and kill the mobs together (I have seen a lot of these) A pseudo tanker is much like an AoE psy. One major difference is that an HnR will only use the wind and water AoEs, while a pseudo tanker has a choice whether to use those or the ones that will have an elemental advantage.
As a PvP, Elementers don't usually use the 1v1 skills, they try to first level their AoEs. And the only rooting you can do is with the mage skills. If you are going to use your AoEs in the arena, you'll be sweared to hell, and the lack of HP makes you a common target there too, especially after an AoE. But windfield is quite useful, rooting and windfield combo and the become epic slow, Assists and Mercs all gone. After an elementor enters the Arena, around 50 people will ask to be killed because the affect of windfield makes you real slow and lasts around 1min too.

I'd also mention that of all the three, an HnR ele is the cheapest but he would not make a lot of money too, a Teba and Vel shall last long and you will have them both for less than 10m, considering how useful they are at level 45 (yes, get them at that level) and how long they will last (I've hear of 90+ people still using these just with some piercings and upgrades which is not neccessary but nice).
Also you could go plug hunting at around level 50 to make money too. But things like gianting are pretty hard unless you have and FS and quality 1v1 skills.

Last edited by DrCoolSanta; 06-01-2009 at 10:16 PM.
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Luciana
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Psykeeper Of The Year
 
Default 06-02-2009, 06:32 PM
Not like elementors are HORRIBLE at PvP. There are some elementors in Kern that can PvP pretty decently, and easily get down a person with 40k hp or so. The problem is that the skills the elementor use are all AoE skills, other than psies, that have a skill which is much stronger than any of the elementor's ones. Elementors also can't use a shield and like that, psys can have a lot of stats more than an elementor. Hence psies are stronger and I prefer them.

Elementors are fun though. I have a friend that can deal 8.5k windfields in the arena and they last around 4 minutes. It's awesome to AoE groups. lol
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DrCoolSanta
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Default 06-02-2009, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Luciana View Post
Not like elementors are HORRIBLE at PvP. There are some elementors in Kern that can PvP pretty decently, and easily get down a person with 40k hp or so. The problem is that the skills the elementor use are all AoE skills, other than psies, that have a skill which is much stronger than any of the elementor's ones. Elementors also can't use a shield and like that, psys can have a lot of stats more than an elementor. Hence psies are stronger and I prefer them.

Elementors are fun though. I have a friend that can deal 8.5k windfields in the arena and they last around 4 minutes. It's awesome to AoE groups. lol
Of course they aren't.

I have many friends who are elementers and we hang out in the arena quite often. Basically if they windfield you, you'll be crying like anything, its so disgusting to walk at that speed.

EDIT: Max your elements one at a time please. A 3 level thunder won't do more damage to a water mob than a 20 level fire would do . . . And only max two and once that is done work on the third.
And how come you guys suggest him to AoE? Closest he can get to AoEing is pseudo tanking. 75 INT, even if he puts in STA . . . He will only have 85 STA at 65 . . . which would make him use a lot of food, pills and would require an FS at all times. And can only combat it with Plugs, Gore, Stam rings.

Last edited by DrCoolSanta; 06-03-2009 at 12:45 AM.
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Skullnuck
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Default 06-29-2009, 08:02 PM
sorry to bring this thread back but i was reading over the thread and i realisd that pvp is alot more fun so i might want to be aoe psy... i hav been adding sta so i can be pseudo tanker and i know by lvl 60 i wont hav enough for aoe psy so i am wondering how many skill points u get wen u bcome psy.. if u get enough i might still be able to become aoe psy
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Luciana
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Psykeeper Of The Year
 
Default 06-30-2009, 05:53 AM
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sorry to bring this thread back but i was reading over the thread and i realisd that pvp is alot more fun so i might want to be aoe psy... i hav been adding sta so i can be pseudo tanker and i know by lvl 60 i wont hav enough for aoe psy so i am wondering how many skill points u get wen u bcome psy.. if u get enough i might still be able to become aoe psy
You get around 90 skill points when you turn psykeeper but those wont help you in your build. If you have low STA, just get STA stuff and use it until you have enough base STA. Then you switch to INT stuff.

Get your base STA to 120 or 130. Base STA = STA without equipments, rings, buffs, etc.
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Skullnuck
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Default 06-30-2009, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Luciana View Post
You get around 90 skill points when you turn psykeeper but those wont help you in your build. If you have low STA, just get STA stuff and use it until you have enough base STA. Then you switch to INT stuff.

Get your base STA to 120 or 130. Base STA = STA without equipments, rings, buffs, etc.
why doesnt the 90 skill points help u with ur build? wat does it do?
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