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JulyLuck 08-22-2008 11:23 PM

In my opinion i found the 12% block increase from cats to be quite useless until somewhere past fishies - stuff starts hurting. With decent stam and elementing your suit, you shouldn't take much more than minimum damage on your grind to being a bp. In all honestly i didn't find block rate reliable until getting a high end +'d set. I mean just tank it unless you can get the "predictable" block - you're not a ranger, or jester i suppose...k...and blades.

After the new skill system was introduced, there was this one skill i wanted. Prevention, and it's basically legit hacks. Saves you money, very little need to worry about deaths and helps much more than the 20 strength you get. Plus prev.'s a self buff - if you have a fs with you - they can worry about max heap (always), haste, beef, cats, cannon; YOU COULD even dump points into QS for faster gather and max mental for the lols....right you can even stun with burst, 12% stun rate max? it's pretty decent.

Dunno about piercing serpent - i thought it was long established as a failure. A CONE SHAPED FAILURE.

soekhoe 08-23-2008 12:44 AM

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Krymogen 08-23-2008 12:52 AM

This guide lacks a lot of things:

- Why BC is better than PS
- Why you should go STR AoE and not INT even though INT is FASTER and EASIER
- What equipment one should use
- Build. Please. Getting someone an AoE Assist build and tell them to add stats as they see fit reeks of failed builds.
- Again, Equipment.. what to prefer, why prefer it, etc..
- Images could be nice
- Keeping only onr colour, two, three at most during the whole guide.
- Mobs to train at
- Proper skill build

and more, sorry I'm somewhat tired.. I'll review it later

soekhoe 08-25-2008 02:58 AM

Wow, I can almost smell the bias toward the str build. your ae supposed to be neutral in the guides.

UberSin 08-27-2008 01:26 PM


They Can switch to FS Bleh So what ?!
killing is waaay too Fun you didn't make an AOE player to HEal and buff right ?!
FS will get you leveled much faster than killing, and either way you have more fun killing as a BP than as an assist.

Your guide is more for assists than BPs, as you are talking about reaching 60 faster and this build i am very sorry to tell you will be terrible for gianting solo due to the lack of dex, which means slower attack speed and less accuracy.

whattaninja 08-28-2008 12:21 AM

your guide is way to biased

mike_perez 09-03-2008 01:56 AM


i'm a dex tyoe level 100 bp planning to restat to a str type AoE (burst crack, 110sta xxstr) when I reach 105. alas, i have crappy equips (demol12, vigor9, billst+3 0/3, anux+7), and i don't think i'll be upgrading these in the future.

given these info...
-are the stats (110 sta xxstr) correct?
-what is the level gap between me and the monsters i am mobbing? how many of them should i mob?
-can i use this str build til i become a hero?

thanks :D

edino 09-03-2008 05:25 AM

Geez So many errors and bullshit written, Your obvilsy trying to make str aoe look better.. This Guide FAIL in alot of ways

melloni 09-04-2008 07:37 AM

Maybe there's someone who's already said all this, but I'll give you my opinion on it. ^^

Overall, it's a pretty good guide. The build seems accurate enough to me for all these things you suggested, although the lack of dex might be a slightly sticky point. I like that you have more than one page to cover each different topic separately because it gets on my nerves /SO much/ when people don't. The different colours do stop it from getting too repetitive, which I'm thankful for after a long day of school. ;3

However, there are some other things about it. First, you described it as the 'perfect' build. I really dispute that. Maybe it works perfectly for you, but other people have different views, and who knows? They might not think it's perfect at all. Similarly, don't knock other builds just on principle. Don't 'bleh' at the int build just because it's an int build. Avoiding bias wherever possible is much more professional.

Secondly, it's definitely not a horrible layout, but there are points where my eyes start to blur. The stat guides are very helpful, but perhaps you could add a little more text, and discuss things a little more? Similarly, pictures and videos will add a lot of interest. Little things make big differences. All the same, keeping colours and fonts to a 'house style' will stop it from getting too confusingly messy visual impact-wise.

Perhaps you could extend a little more on your skills parts? Please don't just say 'max this and maybe this and the rest aren't bothered.' :C Actually go through the skills, maybe? Videos or pictures of how they work and their skill icons would be helpful.


about Armors I dunno >.<
I will Run some Researchs XD
This I am sorry about though. While your knowledge of the build is good, unless you have a complete and thorough understanding of the little things, people might misinterpret or be left with questions you're unable to answer. :C

But it has lots of potential. ^^ I'd love to see an edited version; this seems like a great build to try out.

If you'd like someone to proofread and correct your grammar and suchlike, I'll do it if you want. ^^;

SoaringKnight 09-04-2008 12:49 PM


Originally Posted by whattaninja (Post 1555027)
your guide is way to biased


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