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Originally posted by syia+May 13 2006, 12:36 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(syia @ May 13 2006, 12:36 AM)</div>
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@May 13 2006, 05:34 AM
Sum it all up, Dex RM = teh suxx0rs. Dex RM > AoE RM. AoE RM = ultra suxx0rs.
Sure you can mob...but that's the slowest way possible to level. No str, bad BC damage, and you have to wait til 80 for your freakin AoE. Cooldown AoE, doesn't affect every single spot on the map, etc.
AoE doesn't mean you would level fast, no. You need power to combine with Sta to make a good AoE. RMs aren't made to have power, they're made to support. This is the reason why Battle RMs would suck. You need a crapload of Str to be decent, 60-80 Dex to attack fast, 40+ Sta to survive/mob, and some Int to get your buffs to decent minutes. They're too balanced, and balance isn't that good for RMs since they need everything and they can't have everything.
RMs don't have that much defensive buffs. They only have two: Protect and HolyGuard. Protect = 50 more weapon defense at mastery, HolyGuard = 50 more magical defense at mastery. The rest is Attack, Aspd, Healing, AoE, Curing, Enchantment. Defense comes mainly from the Assist skills, such as Heap up and Cat's Reflex(Yes, it's considered a defense skill because of upped block rate.).
Let me know how that build would work out, if you ever try it though. O_O
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Flash, you're just asking to be flamed. So I'll give it to you.
You're an idiot Flash. Dex RM don't suck. It's just you that suck. If you see me in PvP Arena. I'll completely disprove you and shut your mouth up saying Dex RM = teh suxx0rs. RM can do more or comparative damage than any other job class SOLO. A STR Build RM does insane damage and the only class to have an interesting play style in PvP. I dislike people like you that say this and that build sucks without first testing it out yourself first hand. So keep those statements out of public view and to yourself please. Stop misleading and mis-informing players of builds they want to try. Don't claim the build be "teh suxx0rs" when they can roxx0r so much.
Back on the subject, yes, AoE RM just doesn't work all that well. Like Luri, who has first hand experiences, I don't recommend it either. While Merkaba does nice damage, even with nearly no INT (I got base 15INT and can do 3.2k base damage per tick with Lv10 Merkaba), but the damage take way too long to have a good killing speed impact.
In most AoE runs, it take more than 10sec to kill a herd, specially at Lv8x. So you'll be relying 90% of the time Burst Cracking while having Merbaka as the opening damage. It's not a good idea to switch back to stick in the middle of the herd. So at most, Merkaba can help you do 10K to 16K damage, that's if they take the full 10sec damage. If you stilll insist on trying, a better build would be STR/STA and not bother with INT. As the damage gain with more INT for Merkaba is very low for the amount of INT you would need to put into it. A FS RM with over 200+ INT does 1K more damage than me with 41 INT (Buffed). That extra 160+ INT isn't worth it for the extra 1K dmg, specially since you'll need some of those 160+ points for STA.
If you have a AoE hunting partner, AoE RM build can work out, but being FS is better for your partner. It's also a lame tactic / idea if you would need another RM to heal you while you AoE with Burst Crack / Merkaba as there are other way better AoE class for that Support RM (that's healing you) to be with than with an AoE RM. AoE Solo doesn't really work out that well at Lv8x+ for certain job classes and RM is one of them.
In conclusion, AoE RM build is to be avoided. [/b]
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I did try it out firsthand, mind you. My RM was doing horrid damage(Hybrid Dex build.). Buffs lasted fairly short, beating BP buffs only by a little bit. I'm generally saying "teh suxx0rs" to the class, because they're just overall weaker compared to a Dex BP. If they didn't add any Int, their RM buffs would suffer. Bad. They don't have a lot of points to spend on Str, after adding tons of Dex for aspd increases, and Sta to survive. This means that a Battle RM has to be a bit high leveled(7x+? hmm..) to actually have enough of all the other three skills, to be satisfied, and then begin adding loads of Str. In turn, you'll have to grind all the way up to 7x just for the benefit of more damage. Other classes do more damage, compared to Dex RMs level for level.
The build was fun while it lasted, but it wasn't really my style. Horrid buff times, in exchange for faster attacks, while I can't even GT myself? No thanks. Supporting's more of my thing.
Flame me as you will. I expect to be flamed anyways. Nobody's perfect, and I'm simply a human being. Forums are meant for people to help others, spread information and give opinions. I'm doing the third thing here in the first part of my post.
Another thing. Does PvP really matter so much? So what if you've made the super uber build, that owns everyone in the Arena? This game isn't just about PvP. It's also about the ability to grind up to a decent level, make friends and simply have fun. You're going to have to use whatever build you made for the Arena to hunt with too, and some builds are dead expensive to train with. Dex doesn't level up the fastest, but they're worth a shot. Lots of people are forced to go Dex after a certain level anyways.
Lastly, I apologize for that statement about Dex RMs. I'll revise it if you'd like. If you knew me well, you'll know I sometimes are a bit rash/harsh on things, and this topic just made me type something like that. I'm sometimes off my game when I'm a bit tired..so maybe I'll just get some rest. Best be well-rested than grumpy and posting stuff where people will flame me for, eh?