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Originally Posted by Longknife
While I disagree about the powerful friends who endorsed him (cause give him credit; he has done an amazing job at raising money), I agree I don't expect major change. I simply expect a decent president. Major change is pure fantasy, and if he does pull it off, then wtf he used hacks. 
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I agree that there won't be a whole flip on how the government is run, but I'm hoping for a start of possibly something larger, if he were to become president.
As for that video that Tor showed, I agree with what Longknife says in general. And, there was a comment about how he would fire people, but not fire people.. they definitely twisted the context of some of the statements.
lol xD
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Originally Posted by bhamlaxy
Hillary is actually doing a decent amount better in current polls comparing McCain vs. each of the candidates..
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Actually, a while back, they did a polling with Hillary versus McCain, and Obama versus McCain- Obama won versus McCain and Hillary tied. That was back before the negative attacks between the Obama and Clinton camp started to lose voters for both sides, and eventually move over to McCain.
On RealClearPolitics:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls/
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Poll Date Obama (D) McCain (R) Und Spread
RCP Average 03/15 to 03/27 45.0% 44.5% 8.0% Obama +0.5%
Rasmussen Tracking 03/24 - 03/27 42% 49% 9% McCain +7.0%
Gallup Tracking 03/22 - 03/27 44% 46% 5% McCain +2.0%
NBC/WSJ 03/24 - 03/25 44% 42% 7% Obama +2.0%
Pew Research 03/19 - 03/22 49% 43% 8% Obama +6.0%
FOX News 03/18 - 03/19 43% 44% 13% McCain +1.0%
CBS News 03/15 - 03/18 48% 43% 6% Obama +5.0%
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General Election: McCain vs. Clinton
Poll Date Clinton (D) McCain (R) Und Spread
RCP Average 03/15 to 03/27 45.0% 45.7% 7.0% McCain +0.7%
Rasmussen Tracking 03/24 - 03/27 41% 49% 10% McCain +8.0%
Gallup Tracking 03/22 - 03/27 44% 48% 3% McCain +4.0%
NBC/WSJ 03/24 - 03/25 44% 46% 5% McCain +2.0%
Pew Research 03/19 - 03/22 49% 44% 7% Clinton +5.0%
FOX News 03/18 - 03/19 46% 43% 11% Clinton +3.0%
CBS News 03/15 - 03/18 46% 44% 6% Clinton +2.0%
Eh.. it's really messy, but basically, Obama would win, but only by a very slight margin- Clinton versus McCain leads to a loss for Hillary, but also by a slight margin.
Again, it's just the recent polls, and the definitely do change.. but in general, I was always under the impression that Obama fared a little better versus McCain than Hillary.. at least, from the times I've looked it up
In any case, I'm kind of torn about the Hillary staying in the election. I kind of feel it would be best for her to withdraw, so that the two democrats aren't still fighting against each other- all these negative attacks are driving away voters from the democrats in general and going over to McCain, who has a pretty clear sailing so far (in comparison to Hillary and Barack). I know it wouldn't be fair for Hillary and her supporters if she were to drop out though.. but I'm just scared that, no matter who wins at the end of this bitter battle, the Republicans will win overall, because of all these negative attacks Hillary and Obama are going through.
I'm kind of disappointed Obama started attacking Hillary, but many people say that if he didn't, he probably wouldn't have survived. Iunno.. D: .. the whole issue with the democrats frustrates me ;~;